558 Funding Update

[Dan4th]

Excuses, excuses........

D.

[Xplumberlives]

Posts, posts!

[Checkflaps]

Anyone else seen the query on the well known 'professional rumour' site? They are asking for clarification as they have 'heard' that David Walton is interested in 'buying' the vulcan again.

Now then, it does raise the question though of whether this is as a precursor to adding to the ground based airframes at Bruntingthorpe if the flying days are ended or if he has designs on keeping the old girl going under a company of his. Could make for some 'interesting' times if it is the latter.

G

[Mayfly]

can't see the latter TBH, but I am all in favour of 558 returning to Bruntingthorpe as part of his collection

[Crew chief]

No No fly her into Wellesbourne so we can have two to play with.


cc.

[Mayfly]

now there's an idea!

[Xplumberlives]

No No fly her into Wellesbourne so we can have two to play with.
cc.

Now that's just GREEDY!

[Wizzy]

The line in the latest update which really stands out to me is:

XH558 is the “People’s Aircraft”. Can the people save her again?

Sadly I feel that this may be one "again" too many.....

[Sooty655]

The line in the latest update which really stands out to me is:

XH558 is the “People’s Aircraft”. Can the people save her again?

Sadly I feel that this may be one "again" too many.....

I find it strange that he claims she is the "People's Aircraft" just after he says -

there are millions of people who really don’t know what they will have missed

Is that an admission that the PR (and dare I say "Education") activity to date have been less than adequate?

[Xplumberlives]

Simples YES!

[Sooty655]

Simples YES!

You really think he is admitting it?

[Stigish]

[P.eames]

Anyone else seen the query on the well known 'professional rumour' site? They are asking for clarification as they have 'heard' that David Walton is interested in 'buying' the vulcan again.

Now then, it does raise the question though of whether this is as a precursor to adding to the ground based airframes at Bruntingthorpe if the flying days are ended or if he has designs on keeping the old girl going under a company of his. Could make for some 'interesting' times if it is the latter.

G

I have heard theorys about this though no rumour that he is interested, from what i hear it is feasible to return 558 to the air along that idea should the trust go into administration. has anyone thought to ask Mr Walton for his thoughts on the matter?

[Phantom2]

No No fly her into Wellesbourne so we can have two to play with.


cc.

I thought even Joe L'estrange had one hell of a job getting 655 in there, didn't he??
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PhantomAviator..
Excuse me?, Who told you were deleted? certainly not me....as club membership sect..... I did not delete anyone who worked on the return to flight and was a club member, to the best of my knowledge all ex-staff members who were club members still are for instance Flip-Flop Man for one...... if you care to PM me with your name, address & membership number..... I will investigate the database to find what has gone wrong and also anyone else who can not access the VTS Forum please do the same...

Denis Parker
VTSC Membership Sect

I think I now have you sussed, and if I'm right you never were a club member, this is why you wouldn't answer my questions..right?.... the magazines you were given were a gift from the club committee while you were employed
on the project/business

[Crew chief]

655 flew into Wellesbourne without any problems infact she had just about stopped with with a few hundred feet to spare so a much lighter 558 would have no probs but the CAA rules would not allow it anyway.


cc.

[Xplumberlives]

Let's start a campaign to temporarily extend the runway in order to allow such an outcome!

[Phantom2]

655 flew into Wellesbourne without any problems infact she had just about stopped with with a few hundred feet to spare so a much lighter 558 would have no probs but the CAA rules would not allow it anyway.


cc.

oooooh.

[Spitfire]

To save you searching here is Plemings most recent statement on TVOC ...........

XH558 Appeal Update

2nd February 2010

Dear Supporter,

XH558: the deadline has been set - the end of February

Sadness and grim determination are the main emotions today: the Trust's funds are such that the decision has now been taken to place all its employees on one month's notice, as of 1st February.

We have so much to fight for, but with less than one month to avoid shutdown, the pressure is now really on.

On the few occasions when we have been in a similar position before, all XH558's most loyal supporters have rallied to the cause, and somehow she has been saved. We are not assuming that the same will happen this time, which is why we are enlisting so many more people to help.

In 1941, Sir Winston Churchill said: "Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never, in nothing, great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense." We are not giving in.

Mindful that we should not solicit donations whilst we are uncertain about XH558's future, we are putting 100% of our efforts into the Survival Appeal Pledge Scheme.

We need to raise over £300,000 in new pledges by the end of February to justify a stay of execution, followed by a further £300,000 in March to reach our target of £800,000.

We are therefore launching a number of new activities to secure the immediate future:

* An attempt to set a WORLD RECORD for the number of signatures on a single birthday card for XH558.
BIG DEAL
* Re-design of the Appeal website to ensure visitors understand our urgent message, with a countdown timer to our deadline of 28th February.
WOO HOO (NOT)
* A sixty-second no-punches-pulled promotional VIDEO, spread via emails, with the goal of going “viral” with our message.
FAIR ENOUGH
* A written notice and Pledge reply slip to all those on our databases.
LET'S HIT THEM ALL AGAIN
* A SURVIVAL RAFFLE, launched by the Vulcan to the Sky Club, to create instant availability of working capital, once we are secured. (Prizes will be honoured by the Club if the worst happens).
A RAFFLE
* A PROMOTION PACK, distributed with the Club’s Winter magazine, to all club members.
AT WHAT COST
* Targeted ADVERTISING in regional newspapers where affordable.
STUFF THE PROMOTION PACK - MORE OF THIS
* Contact with national media and PR agencies to get XH558’s story in front of as many people as possible.
4th FEBRUARY - FAR TOO LATE
* And of course, networking with all existing supporters, sponsors and industry leaders.
LET'S HIT THEM ALL AGAIN - AGAIN

If we gather sufficient momentum over the next four weeks, we may well be able to start work on XH558 once again, but we will only do this if we are confident that the target will be met.

In the meantime, work continues at Marshall Aerospace on the detailed planning for the Winter Engineering Programme, whilst our own team are helping with the Appeal.

Assuming we are successful, with the new experienced gained over the past year, we will be building funds throughout the year in all ways possible to avoid the desperate measures we have had to take each winter to keep the dream alive.

Remember our ultimate goal: to be flying down the Mall on 4th June 2012 in celebration of Her Majesty the Queen’s – and the Vulcan’s – Diamond Jubilee.

As we count down the days of February, all the thousands of our loyal supporters know full well what they will be missing if the worst comes to the worst for XH558. What is most galling is that there are millions of people who really don't know what they will have missed. But if they did, they could well decide to help save her.
SO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE UP TILL NOW TO TELL THEM?

XH558 is the "People’s Aircraft". Can the people save her again?

Robert Pleming

Excuse me - but why weren't these initiatives ALL launched last July

It's like a record stuck in a groove now

[Xplumberlives]

To save you searching here is Dr. Plemings most recent statement on TVOC ...........

XH558 Appeal Update

2nd February 2010

Dear Supporter,

XH558: the deadline has been set - the end of February

Sadness and grim determination are the main emotions today: the Trust's funds are such that the decision has now been taken to place all its employees on one month's notice, as of 1st February.

We have so much to fight for, but with less than one month to avoid shutdown, the pressure is now really on.

On the few occasions when we have been in a similar position before, all XH558's most loyal supporters have rallied to the cause, and somehow she has been saved. We are not assuming that the same will happen this time, which is why we are enlisting so many more people to help.

In 1941, Sir Winston Churchill said: "Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never, in nothing, great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense." We are not giving in.

Mindful that we should not solicit donations whilst we are uncertain about XH558's future, we are putting 100% of our efforts into the Survival Appeal Pledge Scheme.

We need to raise over £300,000 in new pledges by the end of February to justify a stay of execution, followed by a further £300,000 in March to reach our target of £800,000.

We are therefore launching a number of new activities to secure the immediate future:

* An attempt to set a WORLD RECORD for the number of signatures on a single birthday card for XH558.
BIG DEAL The only useful part of this scheme might be generated publicity.
* Re-design of the Appeal website to ensure visitors understand our urgent message, with a countdown timer to our deadline of 28th February. WOO HOO (NOT)
* A sixty-second no-punches-pulled promotional VIDEO, spread via emails, with the goal of going “viral” with our message. FAIR ENOUGH
* A written notice and Pledge reply slip to all those on our databases. LET'S HIT THEM ALL AGAIN
* A SURVIVAL RAFFLE, launched by the Vulcan to the Sky Club, to create instant availability of working capital, once we are secured. (Prizes will be honoured by the Club if the worst happens).
A RAFFLE
* A PROMOTION PACK, distributed with the Club’s Winter magazine, to all club members.
AT WHAT COST
* Targeted ADVERTISING in regional newspapers where affordable. STUFF THE PROMOTION PACK - MORE OF THIS
* Contact with national media and PR agencies to get XH558’s story in front of as many people as possible.
4th FEBRUARY - FAR TOO LATE
* And of course, networking with all existing supporters, sponsors and industry leaders.
LET'S HIT THEM ALL AGAIN - AGAIN
If we gather sufficient momentum over the next four weeks, we may well be able to start work on XH558 once again, but we will only do this if we are confident that the target will be met.

In the meantime, work continues at Marshall Aerospace on the detailed planning for the Winter Engineering Programme, whilst our own team are helping with the Appeal.

Assuming we are successful, with the new experienced gained over the past year, we will be building funds throughout the year in all ways possible to avoid the desperate measures we have had to take each winter to keep the dream alive.

Remember our ultimate goal: to be flying down the Mall on 4th June 2012 in celebration of Her Majesty the Queen’s – and the Vulcan’s – Diamond Jubilee.

As we count down the days of February, all the thousands of our loyal supporters know full well what they will be missing if the worst comes to the worst for XH558. What is most galling is that there are millions of people who really don't know what they will have missed. But if they did, they could well decide to help save her.
SO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE UP TILL NOW TO TELL THEM?

XH558 is the "People’s Aircraft". Can the people save her again?

Robert Pleming

Excuse me - but why weren't these initiatives ALL launched last July

It's like a record stuck in a groove now

SAME OLD SAME OLD!

[Amanda_h]

No No fly her into Wellesbourne so we can have two to play with.


cc.

Wow two fast taxi runs in close succession or Formation taxi run!

Just think of the sound of eight spooled up olympus's.

Seriously though If it comes to it I think 558 should go back to Brunty!

AJH

P.s. just saw this:
"# To assist in the conservation to full working order of other heritage aircraft of the 20th century."

Does that mean to mess up their funding as well?

AJH

[Xplumberlives]

No No fly her into Wellesbourne so we can have two to play with.


cc.

Wow two fast taxi runs in close succession or Formation taxi run!

Just think of the sound of eight spooled up olympus's.

Seriously though If it comes to it I think 558 should go back to Brunty!

AJH

P.s. just saw this:
"# To assist in the conservation to full working order of other heritage aircraft of the 20th century."

Does that mean to mess up their funding as well?

AJH

How can you possibly suggest that?

[PhantomAviator]

PhantomAviator..
Excuse me?, Who told you were deleted? certainly not me....as club membership sect..... I did not delete anyone who worked on the return to flight and was a club member, to the best of my knowledge all ex-staff members who were club members still are for instance Flip-Flop Man for one...... if you care to PM me with your name, address & membership number..... I will investigate the database to find what has gone wrong and also anyone else who can not access the VTS Forum please do the same...

Denis Parker
VTSC Membership Sect

I think I now have you sussed, and if I'm right you never were a club member, this is why you wouldn't answer my questions..right?.... the magazines you were given were a gift from the club committee while you were employed
on the project/business


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PM sent Denis as you requested

[Za150]

Heres a thought.....

How about everybody gets behind the project instead of filling this place with negitive comments?

I for one DO NOT want to see this project fail and i will do as much as i can to help in both donating my time and money.

Regardless of what people think of the managment the simple fact is they need this money to service the aircraft otherwise its not going to fly. Even if the queen owned the aircraft she would still need the money to service it.

Flying 558 is expensive to fly and airshow fees alone is not enough to keep her running.

558 needs our support

[Stigish]

I'd love to be able to comment on the current push and the "Viral Vid" but my bloody Laptop is in self destruct mode since i've installed Norton 360 (utter rip-off garbage!) and nothing will work , its just taken 10 mins to load this reply page and I can't even load youtube, let alone watch clips!



Whats it like & is it going to do the job (the Vid)?

has funding increased since the new "we're going to kill smiler & co unless you pay " appeal was re-launched?
I can't even access VTTS site to see for myself.

[Spitfire]

Heres a thought.....

How about everybody gets behind the project instead of filling this place with negative comments?

I for one DO NOT want to see this project fail and i will do as much as i can to help in both donating my time and money.

Regardless of what people think of the management the simple fact is they need this money to service the aircraft otherwise its not going to fly. Even if the queen owned the aircraft she would still need the money to service it.

Flying 558 is expensive to fly and airshow fees alone is not enough to keep her running.

558 needs our support

You don't get it do you - lots of us have GIVEN our support over a number of years - too much money in my case - and I'm not about to give any more time or money to what is amounting to be the biggest camouflaged white elephant ever. All my friends and relatives and work colleagues are sick to the back teeth with me asking - and a typical comment is 'Blimey isn't that sorted YET!'

We all know that airshow fees are not enough - but we were promised new funding initiatives last year so this didn't happen again - and here we are - back at square one - all you people who've supported in the past give us more and more and more

Time comes when you see the light and realise it's not a cause worth supporting in this day and age - can you honestly say if you had £50 - and only £50 - you'd pledge it to a legless aging bomber - or would it be better spent supporting a legless soldier or a Haitian survivor

It should have been self financing a long time ago - it's not and it never will be - this constant firefighting the problem will go an and on and I cant justify it. Personally my back fence has just blown down - a better cause in my book