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Re: A400M update

Postby Saracenman » Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:28 pm

really? :-o

a-hunting i shall go :D

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Airbus confirms A400M first flight this Friday from San Pablo airport near Seville

Airbus Military has confirmed that its A400M transport is scheduled to make its first flight on 11 December, with aircraft MSN001 due to lift off from San Pablo airport near Seville around 10am local time.

The manufacturer's flight plan was confirmed on 9 December in an invitation addressed by Airbus Military managing director Domingo Ureña.

The correspondence says the debut sortie will last "between one hour and three, depending on the progress of this very first test flight". Airbus last week outlined its intention to conduct a flight of about 3h, during which the aircraft will reach an altitude of around 15,000ft (4,570m) and a maximum speed of 300kt/M0.72.

The milestone event will be attended by officials including EADS chief executive Louis Gallois and Airbus chief executive Tom Enders.


taken from Barcelonareporter.com and also Flightglobal.com

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good spot Gully :ymapplause:

a nice video clip of a fast taxy test, amongst others, on the A400M website "First Flight Video Channel" \:D/
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Re: A400M update

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:54 pm

Looks like the C17s little brother!
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Re: A400M update

Postby Sad Sam3 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:36 pm

I bet it's a noisy little brother!

Apparently the project team have been baned from calling it Belfast 2
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Re: A400M update

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:50 pm

Sad Sam3 wrote:I bet it's a noisy little brother!

Apparently the project team have been baned from calling it Belfast 2




I thought the original was always known as the BELSLOW in service!
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Re: A400M update

Postby Dan4th » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:09 pm

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Re: A400M update

Postby RLN » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:59 pm

:)) :))
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Re: A400M update

Postby Gully » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:53 am

Airbus are intending to stream the first flight live here: http://www.airbusmilitary.com/Home.aspx

9.00am UK time... :-o

No chance of watching it from work :(( , but hope it goes off well!

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Re: A400M update

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:54 am

Gully wrote:Airbus are intending to stream the first flight live here: http://www.airbusmilitary.com/Home.aspx

9.00am UK time... :-o

No chance of watching it from work :(( , but hope it goes off well!

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And I hope it LANDS safely too! ;)
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Re: A400M update

Postby Checkflaps » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:42 am

Engines are running - looks about ready to go. Its like 558 first flight again although this time the bandwidth is somewhat better.

8:43 - Taxiing

9:18 - Airborne :ymapplause:

Right, back to work for me.
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Re: A400M update

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:49 am

Well she flies, pics to follow!


Taxi out!
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Re: A400M update

Postby Za150 » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:52 pm

it flys at last...... a lot later than planned!

Im affied it doesnt do anything for me and i still stand by the fact that i dont think the RAF will ever get it.

More C130J's and C17's would be better!
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Re: A400M update

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:50 pm

Za150 wrote:it flys at last...... a lot later than planned!

Im affied it doesnt do anything for me and i still stand by the fact that i dont think the RAF will ever get it.

More C130J's and C17's would be better!




Probably a good job that you are not expected to pay for them then! =)) ;)
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Re: A400M update

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Re: A400M update

Postby Shery » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:57 pm

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Re: A400M update

Postby Air » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:17 am

Was keeping half an eye on this online today. Finally good to see it take to air. :YMPARTY:
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Re: A400M update

Postby Wedgy » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:37 am

Thanks for putting that up :ymapplause:
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Re: A400M update

Postby Mackrick » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:16 pm

Article courtesy of Flightglobal

EADS is warning the Airbus Military A400M customer nations that time is running out to save the troubled airlifter, which programme sources say is costing the company more than €100 million ($143 million) a month to sustain.

"We are negotiating," says EADS. "We cannot take the burden all alone. We need to share the burden."

Sources close to the programme rate the chances of a refinancing deal for the A400M being agreed before EADS's end-of-January deadline at "50:50".

The project, running around two years late with the prototype having finally achieved its maiden flight in December, requires another €11.4 bllion of funding to complete. EADS has already made a €2.4 billion provision, leaving additional costs of around €9 billion that need to be covered by the seven partner nations and industry.

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EADS declines to comment on reports that it is seeking another €5.3billion from the nations. Representatives of the customer nations will reportedly meet EADS officials for further talks in London on 15 January.

Germany, the biggest A400M buyer with an order for 60, has taken a hard line, warning it is not prepare to contribute more than a further €650 million to cover inflation and surcharges, as set out in its contract. France and the UK have taken a more conciliatory approach, saying that they expect deal to be reached to continue the programme.
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Re: A400M update

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:31 pm

Soon to be CANCELLED!
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Re: A400M update

Postby Gully » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:33 pm

Wonder what the cancellation penalties are in our contract?

Still can't see the merit in buying the aircraft - not very well informed on these things, but that recent Westminster debate link seemed to bear out my opinion that a combination of C17s and Hercules is the way forward.

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Re: A400M update

Postby Saracenman » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:50 pm

perhaps we'd be better securing a licence with Boeing/Lockheed to have C17 and C130J produced/assembled over here?

we get the aircraft the RAF actually want, and Brits keep their jobs ;)

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Re: A400M update

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:59 pm

Would it be worth pursuing a LICENCE for about four aircraft?
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Re: A400M update

Postby Saracenman » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:15 pm

it would be a requirement for more than that - plus possible export orders too, a la Westland Sea Kings

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Re: A400M update

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:22 pm

It might happen if we get a dramatic change of Government!
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Re: A400M update

Postby Mackrick » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:19 pm

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Re: A400M update

Postby Xplumberlives » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:46 pm

The chief executive of Airbus has warned that he is prepared to cancel production of the company's A400M military transport plane.

Tom Enders told BBC World that he would consider ending the programme if European governments failed to provide more money.

"We cannot complete the development of this aircraft without a significant financial contribution," he said.

Airbus also said on Tuesday it had made a record number of deliveries in 2009.

The planemaker delivered over a total of 498 aircraft to customers during the year, 15 more than in 2008 and ahead of Boeing for the seventh year running.

But the announcement was overshadowed by Mr Ender's threat to cancel the A400M.

The project is now 5bn euros ($7.25bn; £4.5bn) over its initial budget as a result of weight and engine problems.



The Airbus A400M takes to the skies in Spain on its maiden flight
Airbus will sit down with representatives from countries that have placed orders for the A400M later this week to discuss additional financing.

The seven European governments that have ordered the plane will then decide by the end of January whether to pay more.

Pricing error

Seven countries - Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain, Turkey and the UK - have ordered 180 A400M aircraft in total between them.

Under contracts signed ahead of the start of the programme six years ago, Airbus has agreed to sell them the planes for a fixed price.

"We made a big mistake when we [entered into] contracts for this aircraft six or seven years ago," Mr Enders said, speaking to BBC World Business Report.


AIRBUS A400M
Designed for operations from unprepared, short runways and for rapid loading and unloading without specialised ground support equipment
Drops larger and heavier loads and more paratroopers from both high and low altitudes than other airlifters
Has twice the payload capacity of the Hercules aircraft it replaces
Can hold two Super Lynx or two Apache helicopters as cargo
First large military aircraft with extensive use of composite materials for wings
Can refuel other aircraft, as well as take on fuel itself, during filght
With a 20 tonne payload, has a range of 3970 miles
Source: Airbus


"If you make mistakes, don't repeat them. We should not again take a decision which would lead us to further problems in the years to come."

However, he added that the final decision on whether to scrap the project would be the decision of the whole board at Airbus' parent company EADS.

The A400M, which was designed to fly troops and equipment, is set to replace ageing military cargo carriers in several European air forces.

It had been due to go into service last year, but will not take to the skies until 2012 at the earliest. The delay led to South Africa cancelling an order for eight planes.

There is a split between those countries who want the aircraft built and in use quickly, notably the UK and France, and those who would prefer to proceed more slowly to spread the cost, in particular Germany.

Serious threat

Ditching the A400M would cost EADS some 5.7bn euros in advance payments - more than double the 2.4bn euros it has already set aside to cover losses it expects to incur from the project.

Some analysts believe, therefore, that there is too much at stake for Airbus to cancel the project.

"Airbus's posturing over the A400M is a tactic to extract more governmental aid to secure funding to ensure that contracts can be met," said Saj Ahmad, an independent aerospace analyst.

"If the A400M is terminated, Airbus faces the prospect of a several-billion-euro compensation bill that would obliterate its cash reserve and decimate its stock value."

But others believe that the company could axe the plane to avoid further losses.

"There will come a point where it is better for EADS to simply walk away," said Nomura aerospace analyst Jason Adams.

Doing so would severely damage Airbus' reputation and boost arch rival Boeing, which has seen the order book for its A400M rival, the C-17, swell.

I wonder if his bluff will be called?
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