LPG 21st Anniversary Open day

[320psi]

Hope you can all make it, we are planning something special





Cheers

[Bovril]

will do my best to be there

[320psi]

will do my best to be there

You wont be dissapointed

[Mackrick]

I would love to be there Andy but having checked the calendar I am otherwise engaged. That will teach me volunteer

[Hihonyr8811]

I'm pretty sure me and me mum will be there
Alrady on our calandar

[Cluny]

It was already on my confirmed list Andy
Hope you get to the bottom of 728s snags [again] in time

[320psi]

It was already on my confirmed list Andy
Hope you get to the bottom of 728s snags [again] in time

Nice to see some can make it, great

Cluny, ummmm doubt very much we will sort 728's snags out in the time thats left, but she will run though, you will have to make do with only 1 burnner though, sorry, Im p***** off about as well, we have put so much effort in on her over the last few years, and we had her fixed not 6 weeks ago, but shes old and shes a Lightning, you can never sit back with 'em', they will always throw something at you from the pram

728's snag is a deep one, if its engine related, which I think it is, then her running days are over, with two burners anyway

See you there

[Gully]

Gill and I will be there, Andy! We may be arriving separately if I'm on my way back from the Lake District having camped after watching 558 over Windermere from the fells, but no intention of missing your do!

As for 728's burner snag, did you manage to attempt the flame 'tweaking' you spoke about a few weeks ago? Whatever the outcome, there's plenty of in-service footage clearly showing burner snags(!), so hopefully 728 can run for a goodly number of years yet.

Cheers,

Gully

[320psi]

Gill and I will be there, Andy! We may be arriving separately if I'm on my way back from the Lake District having camped after watching 558 over Windermere from the fells, but no intention of missing your do!

As for 728's burner snag, did you manage to attempt the flame 'tweaking' you spoke about a few weeks ago? Whatever the outcome, there's plenty of in-service footage clearly showing burner snags(!), so hopefully 728 can run for a goodly number of years yet.

Cheers,

Gully

Great mate, hope to see you both there

Yes we did the 'tweeks' and it was no good

Its back to the books and head scratching

[Saracenman]

just as a matter of interest 320 - would there ever have been a situation when a Lightning would takeoff with only one reheat functioning, or would they only ever fly with both?

sm

[320psi]

just as a matter of interest 320 - would there ever have been a situation when a Lightning would takeoff with only one reheat functioning, or would they only ever fly with both?

sm

Hi sm

Yeh Lightnings took off with both out sometimes, usually one would fail though, very rare to see both out, it was a common thing to see one out.

They were tempmental at the best of times

What happens in the event of the burner failing is the system 'times' out after 5 seconds if the burner does not lite, what then happens is the nozzles go from fully open to fully closed in milli second giving extra thrust though the smaller 'ole' as it were, and allowing the aircraft to get off the ground.

When staitc running, you bring the throttle up to 102% 'dry' the thrust is felt alot, but as you 'rock' the throttle though the gate there is a momentary drop in thrust, as the nozzles open fully, but then the burner lites and your in no doubt its lit, belive me

Same when you come back out, as you drop out of the 'gate' and the nozzles are still fully open the thrust drops, but within seconds the nozzles close to the 'pre open' position and you get another kick in the back.

But this dosent last long as you wait there for a second or so to let it all stablize and then your hand is heading back down the throttle quadrant, to 'calmer waters'

Here you go, circa 1987, Binbrook, No2 has just lit fine and what your seeing in the No1 pipe is the 'hot shot' but no burner, the next thing happening here is the nozzle would go fully closed and give more thrust for lift off



Cheers

[Saracenman]

thanks 320 - fascinating!

sm

[Jamesv9820]

Andy,

I've no doubt i'll be there, looking forward to it

Hope you're well

James

[Mags]

Wish I could make it to this!

Have a great day

[Dougs]

sounds fun will try and come along with mini me in tow (havent had my ear drums perferated for years, 1993 was my last lightning show)

[Wedgy]

hmmmm, thought I had posted on this ....

I will be there!!!

[Iggie]

Me & Nads (should that be Nads & I? will be there....

[Saracenman]

the latter Igz - not just grammatically, but coz she's more attractive!

[Xplumberlives]

the latter Igz - not just grammatically, but coz she's more attractive!

ONLY if you don't get SUNSTROKE!!!!!!!!!

[320psi]

Hello all

Thank you for your continued support and we hope you enjoy your day:)

We have a full and varied programme planned and would like to thank the following for their support: The Walton family (airfield owners), ATC (Burton-on-Trent Squadron), Roger Wintle & Clive Davies (Canberra), Guy Hulme (Buccaneer), Nev Martin & Malcolm Bent (Jet Provost), Charles Hilditch (Iskra), John Callaghan (Fire Cover), Nev Martin & David Walton (Hunter), John Fletcher (PA System), Geoffrey Pool (Commentary), Charles Ross (The Lightning Association), Anglo American Lightning Organisation.


Events on the day are thus:

Gates Open 10.30
Lightning XR728 11.00
Jet Provost 11.30
Canberra 12.00
Iskra 12.30
Lightning XS904 13.00
Jet Provost 13.30
Buccaneer 14.00
Iskra 14.30
Hunter 15.00
Auction at the LPG tent 15.30
Lightnings XR728 & XS904 16.15 (Streamed pairs runs)

Today’s Pilots:

Air Cdre John Spencer, former OC Binbrook
Sqn Ldr Dennis Brooks, former OC LTF, Binbrook
Wg Cdr John Ward, 5 & 56 Sqn and 226 OCU
Phil Rydell

Other pilots in attendance:

Wg Cdr John Walmsley 5 Sqn

See you there

[Xplumberlives]

Andy

What a shame the Victor isn't out for a spin!

[320psi]

Andy

What a shame the Victor isn't out for a spin!

No disrespect meant, but no it isnt, not on our insurance anyhows

We also cant afford the fuel as we give all the runners a 'top up'

I cant begin to get over to you, just how much work and up front money goes into running these LPG days

[Xplumberlives]

point taken

[Iggie]

Cheers for the info Andy, looks like a great day again.
We will have Cameron in tow along with a couple of his mates as it's his birthday the next day!

Good luck with everything!

[Wedgy]

So, the IA contingent are:

Hihonyr8811
Cluny
Gully
Jamesv9820
Wedgy
SM
Iggie
Madnaddy
Dougs
Coastergirl
Checkflaps
Kiddiecoaster
Bovril?
RLN?