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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Nickolas » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:32 pm

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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Xplumberlives » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:34 pm

No, Tom has been on the brave pills, have a look back through his posts!
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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Spitfire » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:16 pm

Mayfly wrote:
Spitfire wrote:OK - got that -so how are thearmourers making the attachment in the bomb bay as the tit was pressed last and the ERUs are therefore open - how do they close them :ymblushing: :ymblushing:

Diagrams - come on Diagrams :)) :)) :)) :)) :))


Usually with a special tool that fits in a keyway & just turns much the same as using a key in a door this makes the geometric lock, the gas pressure breaks it - they would also need to remove the empty carts & refit new ones of course,


Ah - that was the crucial bit .... so its a sort of crude hook and eye thing with the hook on the plane and the eye on the bomb. and the hook part is 'withdrawn' at release - and away you go.

Never knew bombs were 'slung' out with a charge though - thought it was all gravity .... intriguing :D :p
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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Mayfly » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:13 pm

Basically yes but I would take issue with the word 'crude' -

'uncomplicated design' would be more appropriate!!
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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Spitfire » Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:26 am

Mayfly wrote:Basically yes but I would take issue with the word 'crude' -

'uncomplicated design' would be more appropriate!!


Or - we could compromise on 'crude but uncomplicated design' :D :D

I'm all for anything uncomplicated that does the job - and I don't mind crude or even heath robinson :p
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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Mayfly » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:56 am

bet you say that to all the girls!!! :p
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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Xplumberlives » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:13 am

=)) :-o :ymapplause: :D ;) X( ~x( \:D/ :o)
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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Mayfly » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:21 am

Finger stuck on the smiley button this morning the XP!!! :))
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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Spitfire » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:22 am

Re: Bomb release ......I now have a diagram kindly drawn by XPL's fair hand and suffice it to say that having seen a picture I understand it :D :D

So the next part is .... are missiles held the same way as bombs ??
I suspect so - but I only ask this because there must be some kind of electrical jiggery pokery that starts up the rocket motor before (or at the same time as) its released from the pylon. So how is that done??

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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Xplumberlives » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:47 am

No, missiles are not held in the same way!

The Sidewinder series of Missiles (AIM 9) is attached via sliders on to a launch rail and at point of launch has to overcome detents by virtue of the amount of THRUST. Typically the Winder has enough thrust to travel 3000 mph faster than the carrying aircraft and will only have a motor burn time of about 8 seconds!

At point of launch when the pilot has pressed the tit following a successful lock on GROWL in his earphones, a GAS GRAIN GENERATOR will fire within the rocket motor of the missile. This is basically an electrically fired match head. It sets the motor burning and will start to remove safety devices and allow the WARHEAD to ARM! As long as the nitrogen cooled SEEKER HEAD can maintain a view of the target heat source, it will bring the missile into LETHAL RANGE of the target and detonate. The warhead is explosive and drives out a modern form of SHRAPNEL made from TITANIUM RODS which are what actually hits the target.
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Re: Questions for armourers

Postby Spitfire » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:25 am

:ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:

Very good - got that :D
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