


Bubbles wrote:Im not about to name names etc as to who has been slagging the forum off, hopefully the person(s) responsible will maybe think about thier actions and realise that members of the T.V.O.C. also frequent other forums. The comments made by this person were not about specific areas of the forum but the forum in general and as the forum is only as good as its members i was offended to read the comments, more so when the poster is posting on the T.V.O.C. all nicey nicey to everyone.
Now i have the same concerns etc that i have had for ages they havnt gone away but what i have learnt is that the constant barracking of whatever the hell they are called isnt going to make the slightest bit of diffrence and doing it on here is going to make even less of a diffrence, do what i and others are doing and actually get off arses and make changes, might not happen over night but its better than sitting around shouting into a vacum isnt it?
Oh and it would be nice if you would comment and disect my posts on the actuall forum i posted on





MadNaddy wrote:Bubbles wrote:Im not about to name names etc as to who has been slagging the forum off, hopefully the person(s) responsible will maybe think about thier actions and realise that members of the T.V.O.C. also frequent other forums. The comments made by this person were not about specific areas of the forum but the forum in general and as the forum is only as good as its members i was offended to read the comments, more so when the poster is posting on the T.V.O.C. all nicey nicey to everyone.
Now i have the same concerns etc that i have had for ages they havnt gone away but what i have learnt is that the constant barracking of whatever the hell they are called isnt going to make the slightest bit of diffrence and doing it on here is going to make even less of a diffrence, do what i and others are doing and actually get off arses and make changes, might not happen over night but its better than sitting around shouting into a vacum isnt it?
Oh and it would be nice if you would comment and disect my posts on the actuall forum i posted on
Seeing as everyone actually knows who you are talking about bubbs, we might as well get a few things straight! VTST not TVOC to start with. And no, not slagging the forum off at all, just the way CERTAIN PEOPLE have been handling things OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME!!!! Not listening, not communicating. BUT, people ARE getting off their arses and DOING things that you have no frigging idea about. Just because people dont ring you up and say HEY I'm DOING THIS or HEY DID YOU KNOW... He/She is doing so and so ..... doesn't mean people aren't doing things or being proactive for the cause.
So, I think before you start posting derogatory posts which blatantly show up people on an open forum, even when you think you're not 'naming and shaming' someone, please put some serious thought into it!!!
I personally think the world of my forum family. Ok some people on here I have no time for. Others I used to have no time for. But, I have swallowed my pride, and have gone personally to these people and spoken to then in person and hashed out a few things, and now we understand each others concerns over the past, and the misunderstandings over posts because lots of things can be misconstrued purely by being read from the other side of a computer screen. You have no inclination of emotion that is put into the post at all.
I've wrongly 'labelled' people on here, purely because I've misjudged their posts because of the way they've been translated on my side of the computer screen. In person, through conversation, the reality is that we're fighting for the same cause, we just have totally different ideas. Pure and simple. No right and wrong. Just different. With a HELL of a lot of passion for the cause thrown in for good measure.
And i'm off the soap box.



Bubbles wrote:MadNaddy wrote:Bubbles wrote:Im not about to name names etc as to who has been slagging the forum off, hopefully the person(s) responsible will maybe think about thier actions and realise that members of the T.V.O.C. also frequent other forums. The comments made by this person were not about specific areas of the forum but the forum in general and as the forum is only as good as its members i was offended to read the comments, more so when the poster is posting on the T.V.O.C. all nicey nicey to everyone.
Now i have the same concerns etc that i have had for ages they havnt gone away but what i have learnt is that the constant barracking of whatever the hell they are called isnt going to make the slightest bit of diffrence and doing it on here is going to make even less of a diffrence, do what i and others are doing and actually get off arses and make changes, might not happen over night but its better than sitting around shouting into a vacum isnt it?
Oh and it would be nice if you would comment and disect my posts on the actuall forum i posted on
Seeing as everyone actually knows who you are talking about bubbs, we might as well get a few things straight! VTST not TVOC to start with. And no, not slagging the forum off at all, just the way CERTAIN PEOPLE have been handling things OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME!!!! Not listening, not communicating. BUT, people ARE getting off their arses and DOING things that you have no frigging idea about. Just because people dont ring you up and say HEY I'm DOING THIS or HEY DID YOU KNOW... He/She is doing so and so ..... doesn't mean people aren't doing things or being proactive for the cause.
So, I think before you start posting derogatory posts which blatantly show up people on an open forum, even when you think you're not 'naming and shaming' someone, please put some serious thought into it!!!
I personally think the world of my forum family. Ok some people on here I have no time for. Others I used to have no time for. But, I have swallowed my pride, and have gone personally to these people and spoken to then in person and hashed out a few things, and now we understand each others concerns over the past, and the misunderstandings over posts because lots of things can be misconstrued purely by being read from the other side of a computer screen. You have no inclination of emotion that is put into the post at all.
I've wrongly 'labelled' people on here, purely because I've misjudged their posts because of the way they've been translated on my side of the computer screen. In person, through conversation, the reality is that we're fighting for the same cause, we just have totally different ideas. Pure and simple. No right and wrong. Just different. With a HELL of a lot of passion for the cause thrown in for good measure.
And i'm off the soap box.
So just out of interest could you fill me in who you think im talking about ? I havent named names simply because i dont want to get draggged into a all out slagging match, lifes too short and im to old for that shit, BUt if my post has struck a chord with you then ask your self why?
I have no idea who has done what to help the cause but i can tell you one thing that at this late in the day going over the same old ground wont change a thing, to put it bluntly you would have to be blind to not see some of the changes in attitude recently or is it simply people refuse to see it? Im not blind nor stupid i know the head sheads have ballsed up along the way and will probably continue to do so, but the grim reality is we are facing what is possibly 558's last flight. Bitching and moaning about it aint gonna do sod all to help her so instead of that how about spending a few hours coming up with ways to save 558
And as for passion? yup im passionate allright, i have waited 10 years since i tucked her away in the hangar at Brunty to see her fly so theres very few out there who are more passionate about her than me.
Please excuse the quality of this post as frankly im rat arsed ok (1/2 bottle of whiskey + 8 beers)
thank you and good night xx



Paul Spann wrote:Sorry folks there will be no further uipdates to the web site by myself as i will no longer be hosting the web site from 10th December, tvoc have now found someone else to look after the site and it will be upto that person to give you what you need from that point.
After running the combined site for a few years and the club site before that for even longer i felt that it was time to hand over to someone else as i could not work with the person that i had been told was now in charge of keeping the site updated.

MrTim wrote:Paul Spann wrote:Sorry folks there will be no further uipdates to the web site by myself as i will no longer be hosting the web site from 10th December, tvoc have now found someone else to look after the site and it will be upto that person to give you what you need from that point.
After running the combined site for a few years and the club site before that for even longer i felt that it was time to hand over to someone else as i could not work with the person that i had been told was now in charge of keeping the site updated.
Errm... Well 'tisn't me (as far as I'm aware) in case anyone was wondering. Wonder what will happen to the forum?












Pujgnie wrote:Re the Forum..
I echo Pams thoughts, insomuch that if they close it - they will be cutting a majory artery in the survival of 558. The Forum members try thier utmost to provide funding ideas. Amid the daft banter... there is a sense of belief and hope. A band of brothers with ONE common love - that being the survival of 558.
Many friendships have been struck up on there and it feels like a family concern. If it folds, it will be a very sad day. The next few months should be interesting as 'they' implement these slight changes. If Denis had his way, he would pull the plug tommorrow methinks. A slight change has already been personally observed, ie lack of postings from a few stalwarts![]()
JMO


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