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VX770 Conway engines

Postby Mackrick » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:57 pm

I came across this tonight while doing some research on conway engines and thought I would replicate the text here.

On the 20th September 1958, at 13.55, Vulcan VX770 crashed at RAF Syerston while taking part in their Battle of Britain display. The following has been taken from the file in the National Archives at Kew. For anyone interested the file is BT 233/403

VX770 was the first prototype Vulcan, and on this flight it was flown by a Rolls Royce crew, which included one RAF member, the navigator. The flight was a test flight for Conway engines, but with a request to do a fly past at Syerston if their timing would permit. The crew for the flight was;

Captain; Mr. K.R. Sturt

2nd Pilot; Mr. R.W. Ford


Navigator; Flt. Lt. R.M. Parrott

Flight Engineer; Mr. W.E. Howkins

All four crewmembers were killed as were three ground crew; Sgt. E.D. Simpson, Sgt. C. Hanson and S.A.C. Tonks. There was one ground crew who survived bad injuries; S.A.C. Turnbull. The ground crew were associated with a ground caravan near the crash point; they were runway controllers.The map below shows the location of the crash on the airfield.

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This was the second flight the aircraft made that day, taking off at about 11.20 from Hucknall, his ETA for Syerston was 13.55 after completing the trials part of the sortie. At about 13.46 the pilot called Hucknall for clearance to do a low pass on runway 09, which was approved, and he then turned for Syerston with his ETA still 13.55. The Captain, Sturt, had been flying since 1951 and was assessed as ‘above average’; he had just over 1,644 hours, with 91 hours and 40 minutes of these on VX770. Sturt was judged to be a ‘capable and careful pilot’.

The following is from the ‘Brief description of the Accident’, which was in the file. I have not included the Appendixes.

Mr. K. Sturt, a Rolls-Royce test pilot, was authorised to fly the Conway Vulcan VX 770 from Hucknall on Saturday 20th September 1958. The flight was primarily for the Conway engine test programme but at the conclusion of the flight, and if the timing was suitable, the aircraft was to carry out a flypast at Royal Air Force Syerston as part of Syerston’s Battle of Britain At Home programme; after the flypast the aircraft was to return to Hucknall, an adjacent airfield. Mr. Sturt was briefed for this flypast by Mr. Heyworth, Rolls-Royce Chief Test Pilot. It was to be two runs over Syerston at 200 to 300 feet and between 250 and 300 knots at 70% to 80% engine revolutions, making the same manoeuvre that Mr. Sturt had done at Farnborough Air Display on 7th September 1958. At 1235Z Vulcan VX 770 called Syerston tower giving an ETA at Syerston of 1255Z. At 1250Z the Vulcan called Syerston Tower saying it was approaching from the West, height 250 feet for a fast run followed by a slow run. Syerston Tower acknowledged this message and told the Vulcan that the airfield was clear until 1300Z. At 1257Z the Vulcan approached Syerston from the West and commenced a run up the main 25/07 runway at an approximate height of 80 feet (Appendix 5(iii)) and an estimated speed of 350 knots (1st witness). A film taken at the time shows that when the aircraft was passing the Control Tower it started a roll to starboard and a slight climb; within 3/4 second a kink appeared in the starboard main plane leading edge approximately 9 feet outboard from the starboard engine intakes. This was followed by a general stripping of the leading edge, the breaking off of the starboard wing tip and a general collapse of the main spar and wing structure between the spars. At this stage the wing was enveloped in a cloud of fuel vapour. The aircraft was now level, with the starboard wing broken off up to the undercarriage wheel well. The Vulcan then went into a slight dive commencing a roll to port, which, at 45o of bank, increased sharply at the same time shedding the tail fin. The remainder of the starboard wing was now on fire and the aircraft continued to roll to port with the nose lifting until the nose was vertical. The port wing leading edge began to crumble and fire broke out in the port wing. The aircraft was now standing on its tail, travelling in plan form relative to the line of flight with the topside leading. The aircraft was then lost from view in an intense fire, reappearing with the nose pointing almost vertically downwards, having apparently continued its roll cum cartwheel. It continued in this attitude losing height until the topside of the nose struck the ground. The port wing destroyed the fire/rescue Land Rover and runway controller’s caravan, killing all three of the occupants and injuring a fourth. All four members of the Vulcan crew were killed. From the first indication of structural failure to the time of the crash was approximately 6 seconds. The wreckage trail extended over 1400 yards.

The Board finds that:-

(a) The flight was properly authorised.

(b) The briefing of the pilot was adequate.

(c) The pilot was competent to carry out the briefed flight.

(d) The aircraft was serviceable for the flight.

(e) The weather was suitable for the flight.

Diagnosis of the Cause or Causes including all Contributory Factors

The primary cause of the accident was a structural failure of the starboard main plane. This is confirmed by inspection of the wreckage, cine films and photographs taken at the time of the accident together with statements by A.I.B. and the Chief Designer of A.V. Roe Ltd. Although the strip examination has not been made preliminary evidence indicates that there was no failure of the engines.

The reason for the failure of the starboard mainplane has not been determined by the Board but the airframe wreckage has been sent to the Structures Department, R.A.E. Farnborough where a full investigation is being made. Additionally film analysis by R.A.E. is expected to reveal more accurate details of speed height and manoeuvre at the time of the accident. This information was not available in time for use by the Board but in view of its obvious importance the Board considered that opinions as to the cause of the accident without this information would be of little value.

I did not see any later conclusions added to the file to show why the crash was deemed to have happened. In his book, Vulcan Test Pilot, Tony Blackman says that the pilot was blamed for flying at 400 kts, and Blackman takes issue with this. he also outlines some problems with the leading edge that were known in the RAF. Worth a read if you want to follow up.

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Photo from the file; right wing exploding.

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Photo from the file; crash point

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Photo from file; just before impact

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Photo from file; debris trail
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby RLN » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:13 pm

Even when it's well documented and all those years ago, it is still shocking
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Wedgy » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:45 am

Absolutely! A very interesting read too.
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Mayfly » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:47 am

There is somewhere a film of this - I can't remember where I saw it - I know I didn't see on utube [though it may be there] but you can quiet clearly see the leading edge begin to break up
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Wedgy » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:54 am

I think its on a youtube clip as part of a whole montage ... sure someone posted it on here - but darned if I can find it :(
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Nickolas » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:09 am

Wedgy wrote:I think its on a youtube clip as part of a whole montage ... sure someone posted it on here - but darned if I can find it :(


It might have been posted by bomberguy.
He has a fantastic archive on youtube but has abandoned it because of some inappropriate postings by the anti war and anything to do with war brigade.

Shame on them.

Ah ha,

Try this......................

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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby RLN » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:10 am

Very moving tribute
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Nickolas » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:19 am

RLN wrote:Very moving tribute

Yes it is rather good isn't it.
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Saracenman » Tue May 05, 2009 8:09 pm

yes, there was definitely a youtube clip - i recall it being posted before. tragic but interesting tale though

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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Hungry Haggis » Tue May 05, 2009 9:49 pm

This the one is the only one can find on there

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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Saracenman » Tue May 05, 2009 9:49 pm

that's the one HH - dreadful :(
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Hungry Haggis » Tue May 05, 2009 10:07 pm

Will slip this one in of XH498 loosing the port gear on touchdown well recovered don't know where this happened



just looked again and found the answer
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Saracenman » Tue May 05, 2009 10:08 pm

bloodyhell HH - what a find! :ymapplause:

that's a new one on me!
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby RLN » Tue May 05, 2009 10:31 pm

The crew were very lucky to get away with that one.
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Wedgy » Wed May 06, 2009 8:05 am

Amazing isnt it? Seeing the Vulcan in B&W ..... she's not that old is she? Still modern for our time :D
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Mayfly » Wed May 06, 2009 8:58 am

but thats exactly what makes the Vulcan iconic, she was designed when the Lancs were on the production line in 1946, took only 6 years from design to manufacture & still looks like she was designed yesterday
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby IanM » Wed May 06, 2009 9:47 am

Hungry Haggis wrote:Will slip this one in of XH498 loosing the port gear on touchdown well recovered don't know where this happened



just looked again and found the answer
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk ... lery3.html


I like the bit where after they get it in the hangar and sort the gear out it ends up being too tall to get out again without some lateral thinking :)

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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Wedgy » Wed May 06, 2009 10:51 am

:-o :-o :-o

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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Dan4th » Wed May 06, 2009 2:12 pm

It was the New Zealanders, right?

And after repairs down under, didn't
they return it with NZ Roundels?????

HA! Kiwi "Homo(u)r!!!!!!

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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Saracenman » Wed May 06, 2009 5:38 pm

not that far from the truth actually Danf..........

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Taken as he climbs away, note that in the excitement the pilot omitted to retract the air brakes, could have been a fatal mistake, but he made it. The port undercarriage can be seen swung to the rear. Look at the dark blob on the inside of the starboard undercarriage door; that is a KIWI, sprayed on at night by the RNZAF! The Kiwi I have to remind you is a flightless bird!!


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As above but taken from the the other side of the airport. Note another Kiwi on the inside of port main undercarriage door!


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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Mackrick » Wed May 06, 2009 7:11 pm

Nice video clips and photos :ymapplause:
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Dan4th » Wed May 06, 2009 11:45 pm

SM:

Yes, I knew about the little kiwis painted on the
inside of the doors, BUT!!!!!

I seem to recall that after the aircraft was fixed
and during her return flight to UK that she carried
New Zealand Roundels......

I could be wrong. After all, I've been wrong once or
twice before. But I DO seem to remember that from
somewhere.

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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Gully » Thu May 07, 2009 11:50 am

I've certainly got a picture of XH562 in IX Sqn days with a kiwi roundel, following a ranger to New Zealand.

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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Hungry Haggis » Sat May 09, 2009 6:56 pm

Saracenman wrote:not that far from the truth actually Danf..........

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the accompanying text says...

Taken as he climbs away, note that in the excitement the pilot omitted to retract the air brakes, could have been a fatal mistake, but he made it. The port undercarriage can be seen swung to the rear. Look at the dark blob on the inside of the starboard undercarriage door; that is a KIWI, sprayed on at night by the RNZAF! The Kiwi I have to remind you is a flightless bird!!


and

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As above but taken from the the other side of the airport. Note another Kiwi on the inside of port main undercarriage door!


:ymapplause:



On this would the air brakes have retracted or woulod they have been stuck out when the gear leg was destroyed are the hydralics not in that bay or am i barking up the wrong leg.
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Re: VX770 Conway engines

Postby Saracenman » Sat May 09, 2009 9:46 pm

the reports comments on the air-brakes. it seems that the pilot was to preoccupied to remember to retract them. he landed with them still deployed

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