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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:33 pm

Richw_82 wrote:Regarding WL747 and WL757, I was sent this link a while back. There's also some pictures of the MR3 on the Nicosia fire dump, which everyone forgets about.

http://s708.photobucket.com/albums/ww86 ... hackletons

Hopefully it still works.

If it does, and you cry, don't say you weren't warned.


It certainly brings a lump to the throat looking at those pictures............ :((

reminds me of when I was at STCAAME at Valley between 1984-86, as there was one there, just outisde the site,that was used for fire practice too............. X(

edited the error that was spotted by XP............... :ymblushing:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:03 pm

Sploosher wrote: It certainly brings a lump to the throat looking at those pictures............ :((

reminds me of when I was at STCAAME at Valley between 19814-86, as there was one there, just outisde the site,that was used for fire practice too............. X(




That LUMP must have affected your typing too! =))
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:16 pm

Xplumberlives wrote:
Sploosher wrote: It certainly brings a lump to the throat looking at those pictures............ :((

reminds me of when I was at STCAAME at Valley between 19814-86, as there was one there, just outisde the site,that was used for fire practice too............. X(




That LUMP must have affected your typing too! =))


its me age....................... =))

thats my excuse anyway............. ;)
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:41 pm

Oh I thought you'd been in for ever having joined up in 1914! :))
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby MOD » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:39 pm

Thanks for the warning Rich. But I am still appalled by the state of those airframes. X( X( X(

Why would anyone take them from the UK to Cyprus and then leave them to rot??

Next year get yourselves to Airbase Coventry and see a live Shackleton taxy again ... :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:


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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Jigsaw » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:32 pm

Did NOT enjoy looking at those pics at all :( :(( X(
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby ThePropKing » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:11 am

Richw_82 wrote:PropKing... Thankyou Sir, for your time. It was a pleasure to show you our aircraft and talk to you.
Rich


Guys,

Thankyou so much for really making my ol' dads day...no, make that year! He had a wonderful day, despite the cold weather. And Richard especially, a big thankyou to you Sir, for your kindness and attention. Dad was close to tears at the end of the day watching and hearing the Growler fire up. Bit of a time machine methinks...

Hope you like the photo below... I think it's some local lads practicing an ancient ritual aviation dance... what does everyone else reckon? =))

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Hungry Haggis » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:01 am

More like
A. A new kind of keep fit.
B. The batteries are flat we have to start this somehow.
C. At least 2 of them need to grow bigger they can't reach..

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:09 am

ShhH!! There's not really a Griffon in there, just a big rubber band.
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In reality - its pre-oiling. There's a high pressure pump running off the old oil dilution system, that pumps oil around the engine. In cold temperatures it takes around 4 - 5 minutes to get right up to the back of the camshafts. Without it, you can wreck a camshaft in a few minutes running.

We have to pull the prop through as that makes sure the oil returns into the tank rather than filling the crankcase. Some people raised the point on Saturday that it would be less effort to turn them on the starter - which is true. Unfortunately you can only turn the starter for 20 seconds at a time otherwise it will burn out.
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Hungry Haggis » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:38 am

I knew that .Cousin used to turn the prop on his Cessna .Before he changed to a Citation which he leased for his business .
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:31 pm

17 Dec

Short day today, mainly because I'm back at Coventry tomorrow. However we did get the pannier collected and fitted into stations 4 - 6 in the bomb bay. It speaks volumes for the build of the Shackleton that with a little persuasion with WD40, the carrier points behaved as if they had last been used yesterday. The pannier engaged with a rather satisfactory 'clunk' then with the latches locked in the bomb bay floor was solid as a rock.... so suitable for our purpose - which is to put the weather covers in.

Success always makes you that one bit more eager - and with December being about deliveries - we decided to add the 500lb bomb carriers I mentioned a while back. These are the first of some presents that were arranged for WR963 at the night run. Again, they fitted perfectly with no extreme effort. We'll see if they still operate when our electrician is back after Christmas. :D

It's nice to be getting to the point where we can concentrate on giving long redundant parts of the aircraft some life, rather than major parts. There are a couple of other systems that require attention that will be getting worked on before long. There's no reason why we can't wake up some of the navigation systems and the galley.

I was also pleasantly surprised to see a couple of boxes of familiar propeller parts, and six blades in the hangar today. I'm told the rest will follow shortly.

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Dan4th » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:56 pm

we decided to add the 500lb bomb carriers I mentioned a while back. These are the first of some presents that were arranged for WR963 at the night run. Again, they fitted perfectly with no extreme effort. We'll see if they still operate when our electrician is back after Christmas.


Have you decided who/what/where you'll be BOMBING??????????

With a little notice, you might get some nice TV coverage!

:D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Hungry Haggis » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:14 pm

Dan4th wrote:
we decided to add the 500lb bomb carriers I mentioned a while back. These are the first of some presents that were arranged for WR963 at the night run. Again, they fitted perfectly with no extreme effort. We'll see if they still operate when our electrician is back after Christmas.


Have you decided who/what/where you'll be BOMBING??????????

With a little notice, you might get some nice TV coverage!

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Danf.

Dan your uncureable or is there another word for it such as obsessed =)) =)) =)) =)) .
Great stuff .Would that be your prop coming home ???
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:14 pm

Great news Rich, bomb racks, pannier and propeller parts! :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:07 pm

Yes, the prop blades are our missing No 2 unit on its way back. The rest should be with us on Monday.

As for the bomb racks, they also allow the fitment of Lindholme survival gear, depth charges and various other stuff. Several of the lads have started talking targets and aiming points though which is disturbing. [-x

I figure if it all works properly we can put our old bomber under contract to the MOD as a Nimrod replacement. :))
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:57 pm

Richw_82 wrote:Yes, the prop blades are our missing No 2 unit on its way back. The rest should be with us on Monday.

As for the bomb racks, they also allow the fitment of Lindholme survival gear, depth charges and various other stuff. Several of the lads have started talking targets and aiming points though which is disturbing. [-x

I figure if it all works properly we can put our old bomber under contract to the MOD as a Nimrod replacement. :))


That'll be the canals and lakes around Coventry safe from Russian Submarines! :))
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:22 pm

Anything is better than nothing!
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:54 pm

thats great news indeed Rich...................... :ymapplause:

she will soon be as close to original as possible then.................... \:D/
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:13 am

Some pictures of the last couple of days work.

The bomb bay carrier points have access panels inside the aircraft. Its a distinctive alloy cover, and they are in rows of three. Some are easier to spot and get to than others.

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We took them up one by one and refurbished them. Each cover plate has seven moving parts, which seems a bit overkill, but probably why they still work after 20 years of inactivity. I'll get a shot of the mechanism inside in the new year (I needed more light.) but it consists of a sprung latch, a lock, and an attachment to fit a jacking mechanism into for lifting carriers, stores, or payload into place.

The carriers themselves - now fitted to 963 - look something like this:

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They lock off onto the carrier point mechanically, and have their own electrically operated latch. This is how things are dropped out, the carrier itself stays with the aircraft. As we may have something fitted to them next year we've got one of the old "Aircraft Armed" signs and put it over the selectors inside. We don't want any accidents - these things are heavy, as I found out earlier today when I didn't lock one off and put the buffers down onto it properly.

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The middle points have been used to hang the pannier. Its a genuine Shackleton item, we have another one just like it in storage. We've removed the canvas outer cover for the time being, as we're using it for a different purpose and don't want it to rot. The panniers are an ingenious piece of kit, you can configure them to be shallow or deep to fit any point in the bomb bay without fouling the doors.

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The covers in there are spare ones, and the little mechanical 'bit' nestled in there is my homework for the new year - one of the aircraft's pneumatic compressors.


So that is it for 2011... what a year.

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The covers are on, the door is locked and Avro Shackleton WR963 is now having a well deserved nap until the new year. She'll growl plenty more in 2012, helping keep the legend that is the Shackleton alive, and if everything goes to plan we may even see her go for a wander around under her own power.

Thanks to all that have donated parts or funding to help her, cheered us on in the face of the problems she's thrown at us, and of course the many of you that have been to visit our old bomber. Its been appreciated by all our little team.

See you all in January.

Kind Regards,

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:26 am

Great report Rich, Merry Christmas and a VERY Happy New Year to you and the S.P.T! :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Dan4th » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:32 am

What Dave Said!!!!!

I've really enjoyed your reports and
following all the good progress you've
made despite some setbacks.......

And is that a GALLEY I see in photo
number one on the right?

If so, GOOD!

A man's gotta have SUSTENANCE!!!!!

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:40 am

You see a galley on the right, bunkbeds to the left, and a small table/rest area just in front. The longest Shackleton mission on record was 24 hrs 13 mins, so the crew needed feeding.
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Dan4th » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:42 am

There is no Maintenance
without Sustenance!!!!!!

Feed me and I'm Happy!

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:00 pm

Thanks for the update and the pictures Rich :ymapplause:

It was great to get a look around her at the nigth shoot and thanks for the chat about your plans for her ;)

I shall definately come and visit again, and am looking forward to any forum meetups there next year, as it would be good to meet my fellow forumeers......... \:D/
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:38 pm

Sploosher wrote:it would be good to meet my fellow forumeers




What are your visiting hours Gordon? ;)
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