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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:40 pm

Sploosher wrote:Thanks for coming back to me Rich...................... ;)

Its a shame that all four engines wont be running :(( , but hey, it gives us something to look forward to next year :ymapplause:

I thinks its great what you are all doing :D , just a pity that there is a lack of funds/donations etc to get things done quicker :(

onwards and upwards as they say................. :ymapplause:

PS edit..........

I assume we will be able to have a wander around and photograph the `other` ground exhibits on the 10th :)


That should read ONWARDS and FORWARDS! ;)
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:38 pm

Onwards, upward, forwards... any which way so long as its progress!

Gates open at 1400hrs on the 10th, with the first engine due to start at 1600, so there should be a couple of hours where you can wander around the other aircraft at AIRBASE before things get noisy.
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:15 pm

I plan to get there just as the gates open, depending on the weather of course, will have fully charged batteries and enough memory cards...................... :D

hope to get some decent pics from the day, I already have some ideas forming in my head......... ;)
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:36 pm

Sploosher wrote:I plan to get there just as the gates open, depending on the weather of course, will have fully charged batteries and enough memory cards



Rich, just make sure somebody checks him at the gate and takes away any joke books! [-x
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Cluny » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:27 pm

:))
I shall meet you there then Gordon as I should be arriving [straight from work :( ] around about then ;)
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:31 pm

Xplumberlives wrote:
Sploosher wrote:I plan to get there just as the gates open, depending on the weather of course, will have fully charged batteries and enough memory cards



Rich, just make sure somebody checks him at the gate and takes away any joke books! [-x



and heres me thinking you liked my jokes.................................. :ymdevil:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:33 pm

Sploosher wrote:
Xplumberlives wrote:
Sploosher wrote:I plan to get there just as the gates open, depending on the weather of course, will have fully charged batteries and enough memory cards



Rich, just make sure somebody checks him at the gate and takes away any joke books! [-x



and heres me thinking you liked my jokes.................................. :ymdevil:



Did you spend long at A and E after you banged your head recently? :-o
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:03 pm

Xplumberlives wrote:
Sploosher wrote:
Xplumberlives wrote:
Sploosher wrote:I plan to get there just as the gates open, depending on the weather of course, will have fully charged batteries and enough memory cards



Rich, just make sure somebody checks him at the gate and takes away any joke books! [-x



and heres me thinking you liked my jokes.................................. :ymdevil:



Did you spend long at A and E after you banged your head recently? :-o


they could not find anything wrong with me......................... [-x

sounds strange I know, but rest assured, the joke book wont be coming with me............. ;)
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Olicat » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:46 pm

I might be there on the 10th - we'll see
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:53 pm

Well, I've come to the conclusion that our big, old, 'ard as nails bomber is scared of the dark.

Why?

Well, around about this time last year we started talking about doing the night run. Then all of a sudden the pre-oiling set up which works on every Griffon in the land perfectly - didn't want to play. We worked our arses off in sleet, snow and rain to try and get her ready. We failed.

One week after the event and the damn things worked, and 963 growled merrily once more.

This year... a perfect summer, with no shenannigans in front of two succesive visits by the Mayor of Coventry, a naming ceremony, a visit by many of her old crew, and even being the star of AIRBASE reopening ... so we started muttering in hushed tones around the old girl about something that happens in December every year. How we wanted her to be part of it.

We underestimated old 963 rather badly. She didn't get to be the oldest Shackleton on the fleet by being daft. Maybe we spoke a little too loudly. Maybe parking the DC6 next to her was a bad idea and it told tales on us. Either way - she knows whats coming up and the teddy bear has been flung in a graceful arc way away from the pram.

~x(

So as you've no doubt guessed, the slow running cutoff on No 3 engine still doesn't work, and we still can't find out where the fuel is draining into the inlet from.

Rest assured though, 963 will be ready for the runs, even if I have to spend a couple of days down there and buy her a night light.


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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:39 am

Richw_82 wrote: (ps. suggestions of a need for joke avoidance resulted in a 'special' headset being found for Sploosher. Its the only one on the aircraft with no microphone attached... :D )



A VERY wise move, one that you wont regret! ;)
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:55 am

Xplumberlives wrote:
Richw_82 wrote: (ps. suggestions of a need for joke avoidance resulted in a 'special' headset being found for Sploosher. Its the only one on the aircraft with no microphone attached... :D )



A VERY wise move, one that you wont regret! ;)


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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:20 pm

Sploosher wrote:
Xplumberlives wrote:
Richw_82 wrote: (ps. suggestions of a need for joke avoidance resulted in a 'special' headset being found for Sploosher. Its the only one on the aircraft with no microphone attached... :D )



A VERY wise move, one that you wont regret! ;)


:(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :((




Please see the "JOKE" thread for proof! :p
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:54 pm

Thought I would post this... I commissioned a painting from my sister. I still have nowhere to put it, so it may end up in the gallery at AIRBASE on display.

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:05 pm

Good old Sis, she has a talent! :ymapplause:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:26 pm

I think between me and a couple of others we've corrupted her! She's always been an arty type, but now she's started doing aviation subjects. I'm jealous of her skill, as the only thing I can do with paint is apply it with a roller while under supervision!! :))

If you fancy a look at her other stuff its here:

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:21 am

I am intrigued that she lists herself as a deviant! :D
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Dan4th » Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:39 pm

Xplumberlives wrote:I am intrigued that she lists herself as a deviant! :D


I read that as "Deviant Tart" :p

But her artwork is very good!

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:59 pm

=)) =)) =))
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Olicat » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:49 pm

Guess who isn't happy?

Yeah that's right im not - because ive just been told we're not going ~x( X(
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:11 pm

Olicat wrote:Guess who isn't happy?

Yeah that's right im not - because ive just been told we're not going ~x( X(




I can hear the little feet being STAMPED from here! =)) =))
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:38 pm

Shame... I was hoping to meet quite a few of this forums member. No worries, there'll be other events!

26 Nov


With the night run fast approaching, we didn't want to be down to two engines, given that our ongoing issue with No 2 prop puts us down one from the full four. Not groovy! Not happening either. We were determined to repair the snag with No 3 engine.

(this was the issue of a large amount of fuel from the drains, and a reluctance to stop when the Slow Running Cut Off was activated.)

Well, all this week e-mails had been flying backward and forward, scans of manuals, and the Griffon AP was being studied in several homes up and down the country. We had a plan.

Arriving at Coventry early in the morning, we set about removing various cowling panels and then set about removing the intake ducting that contains the filters.

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This is secured by pip pins, and a couble of latches, but is made difficult to remove by the drains and the air operated, spring loaded flap that selects where the inlet air comes from.

It took us just under an hour to get the engine to a state where we coud see up into the throttle, and if cracked open, beyond it into the supercharger's intake. The throttle is a rotary barrel, which is in the rectangular duct at the bottom of this pic.

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With the aid of a bright light, we than activated the slow running cutoff and the booster pumps. By monitoring where the excess fuel appeared from (as the drains all terminate here) we could tell where the fault lay.

Within seconds there was a large amount offuel issuing from the discharge nozzle - which is supposed to be closed under slow running cutoff, and a small dribble from the solenoids own drain. We did replace both these items last week, but it seems they still werent quite right.

Reaching up into the intake, we could see the nozzle wasn't seating properly, so this time it was removed along with its housing. The AP was consulted, and the parts from the latest mod state of engine fitted - taking care at each stage during reassembly to make sure it was seating.

The solenoid was also removed, the valve body submerged in WD40, and the electrical portion cleaned of decades old grease.

Putting it all back together we once again tested the system, and this time the boost pump was running for double the time required to prime the lines, without any fuel dumping. After getting all the ducting back in place (which it never wants to do) we set about testing the engine.

We had a succesful run, and WR963's No 3 engine now behaves in the expected and proper manner!


In other news..

Work continues on VP293, the ex Strathallen MR1. I'll get some progress pictures shortly, as it should be going back inside over winter. This was very weird to watch as when the tractor first started to move it, I was looking up from working on No 3 and it looked like it was taxying out...

WR963 will be carrying a genuine Shackleton cargo pannier in the bomb bay some time soon, which we are fitting to carry her canopy/wheel/engine covers. This means a little maintenance on the bomb bay carrier points which is no bad thing.


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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby MOD » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:29 pm

Thanks for the update Rich. :ymapplause:

See you soon.


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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:20 pm

Thanks for the update Rich..............looks like you have things sorted. :ymapplause:

Just a quick question about `close up` pictures, will it be possible to take some before the engine runs?

As the first engine run is about 4pm, will the aircraft be behind barriers all the time before then, or will there be a period without them :D :D
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:24 pm

Thanks! She's behaving now.

I can't say regarding close ups of the other aircraft as I know very little of the details. I'll try and get an answer for you as soon as I can, but at the moment I don't even know what time our Shackleton is running.

However, regarding access around WR963 - there will be a barrier put up in front of her, around 30ft away, we try to position it so it's not in shot.. This will probably be in place fairly early, but won't be stopping people wandering around the aircraft until the first engine starts on site at 1600hrs.

For an idea of how intrusive the barriers are, Cluny's video on pg2 of this thread was done from behind them.

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