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Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:56 am
by Spitfire
Yes I know its flogging a VERY dead horse but now its VTTSF ..Vulcan To The Sewage Farm :ymdevil:

Kicked out of the hangar along with the Canberra and in the open in an obscure and not meant to be seen outpost .... very sad isn't it ...
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20729051_1509415012453712_5219521406047350011_o.jpg?oh=027af0ea657f6650f6e2b64422006f0b&oe=5A2A1D1D

Apparently the reasoning is that 'they spent most of their time outside when in service' ... yes but then they were being run every day - warmed up - maintained meticulously by professionals and not just dumped on a sewage farm and visited occasionally ... oh and guess what's coming ... winter :(

I bet the restorers of the Swift are none too happy either ... I feel an affinity with that airframe as I come from Leominster which is very near where the Swift languished on concrete blocks, deteriorating, through most of my youth ...

What REALLY riles me is the the very glossy VTTS website is STILL promoting fundraising and trumpeting the future...
Vulcan to the Sky Trust already has an established education programme, working with schools, colleges and other organisations. In her new life, still able to accelerate dramatically along the runway, XH558 will build on this exciting provenance to inspire and educate new generations of young people, focussing on the technical skills that our country needs so badly.

REALLY ... I mean REALLY ~x( ~x(

Elsewhere I have seen suggestions that the next fundraiser will be £20 to write your name under the tarpaulin with a permanent marker :))

The most annoying thing is that the Vulcan Trustees are not taking ownership of the failures and issues - absolutely everything is being completely ignored ... I suppose they're hoping it will all go away :(
They should be posting .. 'sadly things are not going to plan at the moment and we have had to etc etc

But then - no doubt - that would mean an end of ..............

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Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:11 pm
by Sooty655
I refer the learned gentleman to my post of 1st February ~ http://iconicaircraft.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9448&p=252825#p252825

And I also claim copyright on the gravy train picture. :p :p :p :p :p

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:30 pm
by Spitfire
Sooty655 wrote:I refer the learned gentleman to my post of 1st February


Good Lord - you totally nailed it 6 months ago :D :D B-) B-)

Sooty655 wrote:the next one will be Vulcan to the Sewage Farm


I defer to your foresight and amazing psychic powers B-) :ymapplause:
Lets see how long it takes to get to your next prediction ...
Sooty655 wrote: then finally Vulcan to the Scrapyard.


Sooty655 wrote:And I also claim copyright on the gravy train picture.


You may well have - to your picture .... but I think you'll find this is a different picture :ymdevil:

So unless you claim copyright on the idea of a Bisto picture in a rail context I call dibs on this picture because its so funny - I can defer to that original idea of yours though :) ;)

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:42 pm
by Sooty655
Spitfire wrote:So unless you claim copyright on the idea of a Bisto picture in a rail context I call dibs on this picture because its so funny - I can defer to that original idea of yours though


I only claim copyright on the idea of a Bisto picture in a rail context when used in an ironic sense with reference to a vaguely aviation related attempt to extract excessive funds from a gullible public in order to maintain an unreasonable lifestyle. :p :p

On a related topic, 655MaPS were silly enough to offer all our members access to an engine ground run last Sunday. We also threw in two talks by Operation Corporate veterans, and it was all FREE. Apparently we should have been asking £110 per head. ;) ;)

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:22 am
by Mayfly
The Swift from what I've read is back in 3 Hanger. It was claimed on one forum that it belongs to an VTTS employee but I'm not so sure that is correct.

I really do hope they can pull some rabbit out of the hat and although I haven't financially supported 558 for years I seriously hope any donations they get are not purely paying the wages of those who are left in the employ of VTTS.

And as far as putting names under the wing goes I feel that is just vandalism - bomb bay OK but defacing her on the outside NO.

Just my opinion.

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:08 pm
by Spitfire
Mayfly wrote: I seriously hope any donations they get are not purely paying the wages of those who are left in the employ of VTTS.


A vain hope methinks ... back to the subject of Gravy Trains ........... ;)

I'm glad the Swift is safe and I agree with you about the names under the wing - yet another cynical ploy to raise funds not thought through...

By the way did anyone notice that the Shackleton boys at Coventry WR963 did an engine run today AND they ran Nimrod XV232 AND all the emergency services were displaying there ... all for the princely sum of £5 a head :D

Whilst those in charge of runs at XH558 want £110 X( ~x(

You couldn't make it up

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:55 pm
by Sooty655
The application for planning permission for the hangar has finally been submitted. Decision expected in around 10 weeks, so end-November (if they are lucky), just in time for the building trade to shut down for the winter. :p

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:42 pm
by Minty4371
No sign of the application online on Doncaster Council's website.
Maybe it hasn't been entered online yet.
I'll check sometime next week.

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:06 am
by Mayfly
According to a post on 558 forum (info taken from a post on FB) there are great crested newts in the area they want to build on.

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:37 am
by Spitfire
Spitfire wrote:You couldn't make it up


You really really couldn't make it up :p

Having seen the very comprehensive breakdown of the accounts on the VTTS Forum I wonder how this is going to be funded - even if it happens ;)

The outgoings for 2016 when compared to 2015 are astounding for an aircraft sitting still doing very very little is just gobsmacking ... the whole thing is just a joke ~x(

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:16 am
by Dee
Disgusted by this Whole DEBACLE

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:18 am
by Mayfly
Aye, it's a right buggers muddle and I'm not sure anyone involved knows what is going on all the time.

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:42 pm
by Spitfire
Mayfly wrote:Aye, it's a right buggers muddle and I'm not sure anyone involved knows what is going on AT ALL


A slight alteration to your comment was required .... :( ;)

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:10 pm
by Mayfly
Well it's easy to get that impression, every time official Q&As are released or a new press release is issued there is always something that doesn't quite sit right with the previous response.

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:33 am
by Spitfire
You seem surprised #-O They've just fallen in to the same routine as the politicians ....

1) Say whatever it takes to get your way - promise whatever you want - make it up ... anything

2) Then when you get your way say unfortunately circumstances dictate that you must go back on the last promise and make up a new one - promise whatever you want - make it up ... anything

3) Go back to 1)

Twas ever thus when there's power and money to be had :ymdevil: ~x(

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:01 pm
by Minty4371

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:15 pm
by Minty4371
http://wearedoncaster.co.uk/news/vulcan ... submitted/

Vulcan to the Sky Trust spokesman Richard Clarke said the scheme would not be able to move forwards until an investor was in place, and the trust was currently actively looking for that investor.

The trust is also currently raising funds from the public towards the costs.

He said: "We would like to think when planning permission comes forward we could move forward as soon as possible. That is the aspiration and we wanted to start the ball rolling by putting the planning application in..

"We would like to be looking at starting next year, but it is difficult to put a date on it.."


What was the £200,000 raised for?
Thought it was for the hangar, but evidently not.

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:44 pm
by Spitfire
Minty4371 wrote:Thought it was for the hangar


Well we all know what Thought thought ....

And when he looked ... he had :D :p

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:05 am
by Hungry Haggis
Hello all been quite a while.

There was me thinking (hang on thinking WOW ) can it really get any worse, all those promises about the future HMMM .All that waffle about the security ease of public access ,training future engineers? What a load of **** Vttsy seems about the nearest curent idea. Thoight they said the hanger would be up by next year not may be started some time in 2025 :ymdevil: . Oh well I never believed 75% of the blurb anyway.

All I have to say now on this subject She flies on on youtube ,but now rots away beside a sewage farm what a sad sad end to an icon. The canbera is another should aparently have been in the air this year ,maybe next or then again with no engineers will it ever happen.?

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:21 am
by Spitfire
Hungry Haggis wrote:will it ever happen.?


Rearrange this well known saying .....

Hold - Breath - Your - Don't :D :p

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:31 pm
by Minty4371
Permission has been GRANTED today for the hangar.
http://planning.doncaster.gov.uk/online ... 1G9FXJRD00

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:27 am
by Mayfly
At such a prestigious address they shouldn't have a problem finding a benefactor.

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:16 am
by Sooty655
Mayfly wrote:At such a prestigious address they shouldn't have a problem finding a benefactor.


Now that they can't pester Jack Hayward any more, I can't help thinking Eddie Forester will have gone to the top of their Christmas Card list.

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:58 am
by Spitfire
Surely even the die-hards and rose tinted spec wearers are now realising its dead :-o

Its a disgrace and the website is still banging on about 'the future' and 'give us your money' ~x(

Re: XH558s future at Doncaster

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:12 pm
by Sooty655
Spitfire wrote:Surely even the die-hards and rose tinted spec wearers are now realising its dead :-o

Its a disgrace and the website is still banging on about 'the future' and 'give us your money' ~x(

Sadly, I think there are still enough gullible people out there to fund the core business of selling off all the spares, begging and paying unjustified wages and fees to the beggars.

The hangar will probably never happen, but the gravy train still has a fair way to run.