558 landing sunday RIAT

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558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Bovril » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:23 pm

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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Mayfly » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:32 pm

I wouldn't say it was conclusive but it does look close.
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Dan4th » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:34 pm

I think we'd all agree a trail of
sparks would not be good.....

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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Jigsaw » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:14 pm

That's a great shot :ymapplause:
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Mayfly » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:45 am

Heres a close crop of it on UKar - not sure if it's from the same photo.

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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Hungry Haggis » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:35 am

It's from a different angle look at the XH558 on the fin Didn't she come close to a tail strike last year sometime .. The pics look like they were taken by 2 different people next to each other , can't see any sparks to suggest a strike though.
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Gully » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:06 pm

No point in having that bumper switch if you're not going to use it!

From our view on Sunday it looked close, but I couldn't say there was a touch...

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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Dan4th » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:24 pm

What is the Bumper/Striker composed of?

One would think there would be some sort
of sparks or flying grit or some other kind
of an indication of contact with the runway
surface.....

I, for one, do not see any of this....

Close, but No Cigar :p

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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Bovril » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:03 pm

the crew will have been fully aware of the position of the tail, so no problems
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Sooty655 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:18 pm

There isn't a bumper as such. The domed fairing which appears close to the ground in the UKAR shot is thin sheet aluminium, and extremely breakable. Extending from it is a steel rod with a hardened tip, which is spring loaded and operates two micro-switches to illuminate two red warning lights at the pilot's eye level. The two circuits are independant for redundancy.

My reading of the UKAR photo is that the fairing is almost in contact but not quite. The steel rod would certainly be in contact with the runway, but as it is sprung, probably not hard enough to generate sparks. If the pilot claims neither light was on, then that must be correct, mustn't it?? :p
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Ray C » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:54 pm

Wonderfully said Sir Sooty.... :ymapplause:
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Bubbles » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:26 pm

The picture on UKARSE was a just an attempt at stirring it up. The thing flew out on Monday with no damage that I could see.
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Dan4th » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:17 pm

I Agree.............

UKAR: Teapot/Tempest In A ;)

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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Exceptionalsleeper » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:04 pm

Bubbles wrote:The picture on UKARSE was a just an attempt at stirring it up. The thing flew out on Monday with no damage that I could see.


What I read on UKAR was a discussion and not an attempt to stir it up. That surprisingly is what a forum is for, to discuss opinions.

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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Bubbles » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:47 am

I think you have to understand the mindset of certain people on UKARSE to see beyond the words.

Have to be honest with you but rivet joint doesn't float my boat. Seen one airliner and you've seen 'em all kind of thing. Just a different interior really, but thanks for the kind offer.
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Dan4th » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:06 am

Actually, Bubs, the C/KC/RC 135 is a totally different
aircraft from the Boeing 707 :-o

It is based upon the airliner prototype which was
completely redesigned and with no interchangeability
of any parts except perhaps for rivets :p

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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Bubbles » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:55 am

Still looks like one to me. :)
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Lucas1860 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:20 am

The angle of that close up shot fools the eye, on looking at that there is still clearance, its how it looks with the shadow, bearing in mind for the landing position and the time it landed, on both days, the sun would have shadowed away from the crowd line, as in this shot. No touch.
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Exceptionalsleeper » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:44 pm

Dan4th wrote:Actually, Bubs, the C/KC/RC 135 is a totally different
aircraft from the Boeing 707 :-o

It is based upon the airliner prototype which was
completely redesigned and with no interchangeability
of any parts except perhaps for rivets :p

'Snot an Airliner :))

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Took the words right out of my mouth Danf, but that is the difference between a serious aircraft enthusiast and well, the "uneducated" types! :D
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Bubbles » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:10 pm

Really? Which category do you fall in? Can't seem to find one labelled "insufferable knob" in your post.

For the record I'm not an 'uneducated type' I just find the RC135 about as interesting as watching paint dry, given the choice I'd watch the latter rather than the former.
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Mayfly » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:59 am

Don't go there guys - make it personal and posts will removed/edited.

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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Sploosher » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:30 am

Mayfly wrote:Don't go there guys - make it personal and posts will removed/edited.

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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Aceyone » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:16 am

Blimey ,for a minute there I thought I had clicked on the wrong forum [-x
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Re: 558 landing sunday RIAT

Postby Exceptionalsleeper » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:52 pm

Bubbles wrote:Really? Which category do you fall in? Can't seem to find one labelled "insufferable knob" in your post.

For the record I'm not an 'uneducated type' I just find the RC135 about as interesting as watching paint dry, given the choice I'd watch the latter rather than the former.


Bubbles, I was congratulating Danf on his knowledge and if you thought I was referring to you has a "uneducated type" then you really have got the wrong end of the stick. I was referring some of the RAF top brass who thought we could carry on on-the-job training on the E-3D - perhaps I should have explained for YOUR clarity. Regardless, I'm actually insulted by your vulgar comment and after I was courteous to offer you a look round the RAF's new aircraft too. I have tried to be friendly Bubbles. X(
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