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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Sploosher » Wed May 25, 2011 2:38 pm

Nickolas wrote:I started a thread on the other side and expressed a desire that WE find out from the website rather than from any third parties..........


Here Here Nickolas............. :ymapplause:
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Jigsaw » Wed May 25, 2011 9:50 pm

If you look, you find information. If you are interested, you look in more than one place.

Report from Trustees Meeting

Finances are very tight, but the project is secure until at least the end of July. The Trustees will meet again at the end of June to assess progress towards meeting the £160,000 shortfall. Thank you everyone for your support and generosity that has provided this breathing space during which we will continue to work hard on fundraising and revenues from commercial activities.

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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Old Rigger » Thu May 26, 2011 10:14 am

Hi jigsaw, just a small observation; as a general member of the public I go to the Web site and look on the latest news section and there is nothing about the extract you posted or the meeting being held yesterday, I then search through the open to general public access 'how you can help' and the public access forum threads and again no news, even the funding page is still showing that the next update is Monday 23rd, so I think Nicholas has a point. Even with a log in it is not easy to find the important news that should be plastered all over the public and members areas of the VTST web pages if they need funding help not tucked awya in some hard to find areas, it is no good relying on other forums to have the news spread by those who do know where to find the gen.

Just my observation that I believe has been muted a few times by others over the last couple of years.

Dam, and I was doing so well staying out of this debate to date :( so will again withdraw gracefully and bite my tongue, figuratively speaking, in the future.
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Hungry Haggis » Thu May 26, 2011 12:54 pm

Jigsaw wrote:If you look, you find information. If you are interested, you look in more than one place.

Report from Trustees Meeting

Finances are very tight, but the project is secure until at least the end of July. The Trustees will meet again at the end of June to assess progress towards meeting the £160,000 shortfall. Thank you everyone for your support and generosity that has provided this breathing space during which we will continue to work hard on fundraising and revenues from commercial activities.

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Not intended as an argument .But some"Many" people do not have access to Farcebook or twatter or even bebo Msn messenger or other social media sites so as above if the info is not clearly available on the TVOC site and "one " is not a member of said site how do they search for the info ,indeed many people don't have a computer or even internet access .The interweb isn't the only way to inform people there is such a thing as a daily newspaper and not just the Guardian or the times but many many local rags and also national and Semi national papers North of the border .I look in the most obvious place for info about whatever subject I want in this case the TVOC site to get hopefully up to date info regarding the Vulcan I'm not a member so it's the public areas I look in and if it's not there then I leave .The place in my opinion for official announcements it first and for most the home site not buried away on some social media site ( yes I know buried may not be the correct term) .But farcebook is only in my honest opinion a place for social chatter .
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Mayfly » Thu May 26, 2011 1:07 pm

Well it's on the Website now in the news links on the right hand side - but it's only gone on in the last 1hour.

I was going to post that until I see it on there I personally wouldn't take it as official but thats academic now :))
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Hungry Haggis » Thu May 26, 2011 3:28 pm

I love the bit about government leaders .don't tell me DC and Obama went.(OH bum ha is the only way I can remember his name )Do they want to rent a bomber by any chance =)) =)) .Joking apart it's good to see someone thought to get it put up .
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Jigsaw » Thu May 26, 2011 5:44 pm

HH and OR I take your point (as well as Nicholas's) and agree with you. The only point I was trying to make is that I found the info because I follow 558's Facebook page and when I logged in the info was there. Generally, if youo want to find something out, you can. Of course the place you would expect to see it first should be the official site but......................
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu May 26, 2011 8:16 pm

Surely it would be more sensible to make the information as easy as possible to find!



Just by doing that it could lead to a bit more money coming in!
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Dee » Thu May 26, 2011 8:21 pm

If you pop over to VTTS forum Ian has explained what went wrong with the posting of the news!
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Mayfly » Thu May 26, 2011 8:37 pm

Actually I was thinking - [shock horror] would it not be better to post a link to the website on FB when there is any news or significant updates, that way you get more traffic to the website and with a bit of luck they may even have a look around and buy something from the shop, or does FB not work that way?
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Jigsaw » Thu May 26, 2011 9:41 pm

There is a link to the website from Facebook, I tend not to click on it. People often react negatively regarding comments on here which are, at the end of the day just one person expressing opinion as they see it or feel about it. It does not make it personal. That is what fora are about. I prefer objective opinion without the need to pooh pooh it (I said pooh pooh, time for bed) ;)
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Mayfly » Fri May 27, 2011 12:13 pm

Thanks Jiggy as you know I don't do FB - lol
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Nickolas » Fri May 27, 2011 5:18 pm

For those that can't bear to go on the other side..............


The last flying Vulcan returns to her original cold-war hangar to be the centrepiece for new events, education and engineering centres.


Unique heritage jets expertise to be made available to private owners.



The last flying Vulcan has moved into Hangar 3 at Robin Hood Airport Doncaster Sheffield, the historic site of former RAF Finningley. For the first time, this much-loved aircraft will have a dedicated home, open to the public and available for private and commercial events. Plans are also being laid down for a facility for skills development, using the inspirational nature of the Vulcan to provide training and team building for engineering companies. In the longer term, a world leading centre of expertise for the restoration and operation of heritage jet aircraft will also be developed.

“This is one of the biggest steps for Vulcan XH558 since her return to flight in 2007. It brings a new era of opportunities that will help to fund her future and provide new levels of access for her supporters,” said Vulcan to the Sky Trust CEO, Dr Robert Pleming. “These are early days in deciding exactly what facilities will be included. Developing the funding and detailed plans needed to turn our ideas into reality will take some time, but I am thrilled to be able to share our vision at this stage.”

Hangar 3 is one of the airport’s crescent of Type C hangars built in 1935 and adapted from 1955-57 to take the RAF’s new V-Bombers. All three V-Force types were based at the airfield – Valiant, Victor and Vulcan – including XH558 from 1960 to 1968. During this period, Vulcans stood on Quick Reaction Alert, ready to take off in just a couple of minutes in response to the detection of a potential nuclear attack, carrying Britain’s nuclear deterrent deep into enemy territory. The original architecture, bomb-stores and even the aircraft holding pans are all well preserved, making this the ideal location for the new visitor centre and a uniquely evocative location for education and events.

Because the Vulcan has been based at military airfields for the last two years, providing public access has been challenging. The top priority for her new home is therefore to provide visitor facilities. Initially, this will be by pre-booked tours, including visits by local schools through the educational outreach programme. The facility will be progressively developed to provide a visitor centre with a retail store and educational displays covering XH558’s technology and restoration, and an insight into the Cold War; “A critical but increasingly overlooked period in World History, with many lessons relevant to today,” according to Dr. Pleming. These facilities will continue to expand to eventually create an important new visitor attraction for Yorkshire, which is already independently recognised as one of Europe’s most successful tourist destinations.

The fabulous Hangar 3 location will also provide an outstanding new events and hospitality venue, professionally-managed by Directions Community Interest Company, which facilitates all activities associated with Hangar 3 and Hangar 2. With staging, lighting, catering, audio visual facilities and flexible seating for up to 400 around the Vulcan, it will provide an unique and powerful venue for private and corporate events, and for smaller VIP parties which can also include a tour of the aircraft. Vulcan celebrity speakers, including aircrew, can be arranged.

Ideas are also in development for an engineering skills centre that will build on the presence of XH558 and her technical team to provide inspirational training experiences for apprentices and young engineers. “Initial reaction from industry has been superb, with suggestions and offers of help in setting up courses and providing expertise,” says technical director Andrew Edmondson. “We would like to talk to any company that may find it useful to offer a truly inspiring environment for team building and basic training in areas that may include project management, audit, craft and trade skills, compliance and potentially a lot more. I’d like to understand your needs so we can evolve this unique resource to help satisfy them in an inspiring way.”

Andrew Edmondson is best known as the engineering leader who, under the guidance of Robert Pleming, successfully completed the world’s most ambitious aviation heritage project when XH558 returned to the skies in 2007. He is also playing a key role in negotiations with the Civil Aviation Authority, with whom he is working to revise airworthiness requirements for the Complex category of ex-military aircraft. Pleming believes that the experience of Edmondson and his team, which today ensures that XH558 is more reliable than many military aircraft, has given Vulcan to the Sky Trust the world’s most complete expertise in the restoration, maintenance and safe operation of classic heritage jets. This knowledge, together with the workshop resources of the Vulcan to the Sky technical crew, will be made available to those who are operating the growing number of privately owned ex-military heritage jet aircraft.

“We are reaching a period where there are an increasing number of ex-military jets available for private ownership and operation, ranging from relatively simple trainers to more sophisticated multi-engined aircraft. Running them is a completely different proposition to operating say a Spitfire, or even an early jet like a Hunter,” says Edmondson. “We can help solve that challenge, advising on what is possible, developing and implementing restoration plans and providing maintenance and operational management within an approved quality system, to the world’s highest safety standards.”

”The new centre will help to keep many more of these wonderful vintage aircraft alive and safe, providing enjoyment for generations to come,” concludes Edmondson.

Engineers as Heroes

Highlighting the substantial step between the Vulcan and its immediate predecessor the Avro Lancaster, Dr. Pleming notes the contribution made by its designers. “We always think of the pilots and crew as the heroes and yes they are, their skills and bravery are an example to us all. But their achievements wouldn’t be possible without the incredible talents of the engineers whose genius, imagination and dedication allows us to do things that just a few years earlier would have been impossible,” says Dr. Pleming. “The various inspirational aspects of the new Vulcan facility will place these remarkable people alongside the aircrew as our heroes and role models, to inspire the next generation of engineers and aviators.”

Craig Richmond, CEO of Peel Airports, which operates Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport, sees the opportunities that the Vulcan offers for the airport, for the region and for XH558’s supporters. “Having the last flying example operating from ‘the home of the V-Force’, in the town that also hosted Britain’s first airshow, is a fabulous tribute to the men and women who were based here when the airfield played a key strategic role in Britain’s defences,” he says. “Peel Airports is committed to developing all aspects of aviation activity at the airport and is delighted to be able to provide a home for this inspirational historic aircraft at what is today a modern commercial airport.”

Invest in Doncaster, part of Doncaster Council, also saw the potential opportunities more than two years ago and has been in discussions with Vulcan to the Sky Trust since. Manager of Investment Chris Dungworth said, "This is the beginning of another world-class attraction for Doncaster, not just for tourism but also for education, engineering and hospitality. The fit is perfect and we are one hundred percent behind Vulcan to the Sky Trust and Doncaster Sheffield Airport to help them make it happen.”

How to help the Vulcan fly

Readers can sign-up for the weekly eNewsletter at: http://www.vulcantothesky.org/register.html
Join the Vulcan Facebook community at: www.facebook.com/pages/Vulcan-xh558/170427449654925
To find out where to see the last flying Vulcan, visit http://www.vulcantothesky.org/appearances.html

Sign-up for the eNewsletter to be amongst the first to learn about the new Friends Scheme with its range of special events and benefits.

The last flying Vulcan receives no funding from the RAF or from Government. She is almost entirely dependent on public support. To find out how to help keep her flying, visit www.vulcantothesky.org where there is also a history of the aircraft and a wide range of Vulcan merchandise including the beautifully-illustrated 50th Anniversary book and a limited number of the highly-regarded account of the Falklands mission, Vulcan 607, signed by Black Buck 1, squadron leader Martin Withers DFC.


Press Enquiries

Richard Gotch at Market Engineering +44 (0) 1295 277050 / +44 (0)7831 569732
(further information and interviews) richard.gotch@m-eng.com

Christopher Foster at Market Engineering +44 (0)1295 277050 / +44 (0)7775 449655

Richard Clarke at Vulcan To The Sky Trust +44 (0) 7541 133683 / +44 (0)7541 133683


Background Information

Invest in Doncaster is Doncaster Council’s Economic Development arm. The team provides a comprehensive package of support to help make it easier for companies who wish to move to Doncaster, relocate or expand within the region. The team provides information to both existing and potential businesses on a wide range of issues including the availability of land and premises, business development, financial benefits, HR consultancy, and information on the local economy. The team is also responsible for Doncaster Tourism and management of the Tourism Information Centres

Robin Hood Airport Doncaster Sheffield is the UK's newest purpose built international airport, having commenced operation in April 2005 on the site of the former RAF Finningley air base. The Airport is located seven miles from Doncaster and 25 miles from Sheffield, serving passengers across Yorkshire, the Humber and the North Midlands.

In June 2010, Vancouver Airport Services acquired a 65 percent majority share in Peel Airports Limited, which includes DSA. The Peel Group retained a 35 percent share in Peel Airports Limited. In 2010, the airport handled just under over 900,000 passengers, an increase of 5% compared to the previous year with flights to over 30 destinations currently available. Principle airlines providing services at the Airport include TUI (the world’s largest leisure company), Flybe, Ryanair, Thomas Cook and Wizz Air.

Significant recent investment of over £100 million includes a new terminal. With one of the UK's longest runways, Doncaster Sheffield Airport has the capacity to handle all types of international aviation including charter, scheduled, long-haul, freight, general and business aviation.
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Hungry Haggis » Fri May 27, 2011 5:42 pm

That's what i like to see Here hoping the above in it's full hits the newspapers across the country .Wonder if they would object to that .
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Jigsaw » Fri May 27, 2011 8:25 pm

That was a very interesting and informative read. Thanks for putting that up Nicholas :)
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby PhantomAviator » Sat May 28, 2011 5:45 pm

Anyone know what time she is due at Bruntingthorpe?
Only my dad would like to see her fly in.
One would assume that as she is coming in from the South that she would be landing from Gilmorton end towards Bruntingthorpe, unless the wind is in the wrong direction.
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Hungry Haggis » Sat May 28, 2011 5:55 pm

Doncaster is north of Brunty and at a guess she will land into wind whichever direction it's comming from .If no everyone going eat loads of beans and go to the same end . :ymdevil: =)) .no one will really know until the day.

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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Mayfly » Sat May 28, 2011 6:07 pm

PhantomAviator wrote:Anyone know what time she is due at Bruntingthorpe?
Only my dad would like to see her fly in.
One would assume that as she is coming in from the South that she would be landing from Gilmorton end towards Bruntingthorpe, unless the wind is in the wrong direction.



According twitter she landed 3 minutes before you asked.
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby PhantomAviator » Sat May 28, 2011 6:27 pm

Mayfly wrote:
PhantomAviator wrote:Anyone know what time she is due at Bruntingthorpe?
Only my dad would like to see her fly in.
One would assume that as she is coming in from the South that she would be landing from Gilmorton end towards Bruntingthorpe, unless the wind is in the wrong direction.



According twitter she landed 3 minutes before you asked.



I had been watching for info all day but couldn't find any.
Ah well he will have to wait until she takes off tomorrow.
i would have taken him to the event but as he is not fit enough and disabled I can't.
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Mayfly » Sat May 28, 2011 6:40 pm

You could always try the home page of the Trust site they have a twitter banner on there.
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby PhantomAviator » Sun May 29, 2011 3:55 pm

Mayfly wrote:You could always try the home page of the Trust site they have a twitter banner on there.



their twitter is the same as their norm which is out of date.
States that the aircraft landed yesterday nothing of any entry for today. Sunday.

but thanks all the same.
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Mayfly » Sun May 29, 2011 4:05 pm

It says the ground crew are preparing the a/c [10 mins ago]

:)) They must have waited for you look then updated it!!!
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby PhantomAviator » Sun May 29, 2011 6:28 pm

Mayfly wrote:It says the ground crew are preparing the a/c [10 mins ago]

:)) They must have waited for you look then updated it!!!



Thanks MayFly managed to get to see her fly overhead and make my dad happy. I think it may be the last time he sees her for real.
Everything else will be via the television.
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby Mayfly » Sun May 29, 2011 6:48 pm

I'm pleased you saw her. I've given up looking for her - can't trust a thing aircrew tell you!!! :)) :)) :))
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Re: 558 news updates

Postby PhantomAviator » Sun May 29, 2011 10:32 pm

Mayfly wrote:I'm pleased you saw her. I've given up looking for her - can't trust a thing aircrew tell you!!! :)) :)) :))



Don't let DT hear you say things like that.
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