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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:51 pm

Cheers!

I have a load of photos to post from last Saturday's run, but we told Airbase we'd hold off putting them out on the internet until Friday's opening.

I'll try and keep you all updated as best I can.

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Olicat » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:51 pm

Thanks I/we'd like that!
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Hihonyr8811 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:53 pm

Xplumberlives wrote:Welcome Rich your input and photos will be most welcome! :ymapplause:


What he said :ymapplause: :D

Really looking forward to your photos :ymapplause: :D
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sooty655 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:55 pm

Welcome to Iconic, Rich. :ymapplause: :ymapplause:

I'll try to be there on Friday. \:D/
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:12 pm

A brief look at how far this old cold war beastie has come in the last 12 months. This was April last year - we hadn't ran the engines since 27 Jan 2010, due to an oiling problem causing horrendous camshaft wear (some of which is still left to rectify)

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5 Feb 2011 saw two engines fit to go. Attempts at getting the Coastal scheme done had been stalled by the weather, but at least we were running now after 13 months of silence.

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The long term aim is to get her back to the condition she enjoyed in 2008, when she got out on the runway for a fast taxi. If we can achieve that by the end of the year, we'll be very happy, given that this is WR963's 20th year in retirement.

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Dan4th » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:52 pm

Rich, you are a Godsend to those of us who
LUV prop aircraft!

She is a Loverly Old Crate, and I look forward
to anything you care to send us!

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Mackrick » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:44 am

Nice photos. Would love to see more please....
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:30 pm

Mackrick wrote:Nice photos. Would love to see more please....


here here I will second that.................................. :ymapplause:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:05 pm

Awesome, I'll post some more then. I'm sure by now those of you that are pretty sharp with a computer will have found my photobucket account anyway, but I'll crack on.

The aircraft's exterior was in a bit of a state when I first got to Coventry It had been repainted around 10 years ago into 38 Sqn colours, and by now it was ready for doing again. Other bits that had not been touched were now begging for attention too, the sealing tapes used to cover joints were all rotten and peeling. The aircraft was leaking like a sieve, which had a knock on effect on a number of other systems, the worst being when it got into the fuel system.

This is what we started with:

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This is the wing cleaned and with new sealing tapes applied:

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Which then looks really great when you get a coat of BS381C 637 medium sea grey on it.

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Thankfully we have all the manuals, like these:

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We've also got ALL the design drawings for the Shackleton, which amounts to some 16 tons of paperwork. After getting the sealing done, we had some scaffolding erected to work from This brought about some really amusing internet rumours like the undercarraige being removed, or that we were breaking 963 up.

The white scheme kept going on, but the weather stalled it. We decided to hold off through winter and negotiated with Airbase for some hangar time to finish the job. We got most of the fuselage done in white in time for the "Help For Heroes" fly in at Coventry in September. WR963 saw 500 visitors in one day tour her.

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While we were waiting on winter getting out of the way, we set about the engines. None of our group have the experience to build the missing prop up for No 2 engine, but we could handle the onboard pre-oiling system. This is a bespoke system designed by one of our engineers. It uses an American made Oilamatic pump with a take off from the main oil feed, to pump oil at high pressure into the oil galleries prior to starting. Originally you had to remove all the cowlings and various blanking plugs. Now the engine is turned manually for four minutes, with the oilers switched on in the engineers panel. No fuss, no mess, no problem.

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The oil tank is the big one in the middle You can't see the oil feed but the plumbing at this side is all very basi. It's hard to believe they slung a Rolls Royce Viper jet engine in there on the MR3, as theres so little room. The pumps are activated by switches and wiring that is a redundant leftover system for oil dilution.

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The idea was to cut down on cam wear. The first 10 seconds of running is critical.. if a Griffon shows no oil pressure after that you must shut it down. Even for those 10 seconds though, there is little oil to the top end, so the cams rely on what they have until the pressure comes up. Ours hadn't been getting fed.

By the time we had the system in place there was snow on the floor.

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Due to cold temperatures, oil like treacle, and batteries that weren't interested in providing great voltages in the cold it didn't work. We waited for the snow to go away, then came back in January and tried again. A few parts were found to have been supplied with incorrect internal dimensions acting as restrictors. We drilled them out and were rewarded with great flows of oil at the cams.

Now at last we could run engines... with 5 Feb being the day WR963 growled again.

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Dan4th » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:00 am

Rich:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby RLN » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:40 pm

Great stuff. :ymapplause:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Lucas1860 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:51 pm

Great report.

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Jigsaw » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:36 pm

That was superb. Keep them coming. I am only just catching up properly after a busy week so thanks for all the pics and info and welcome to IA Rich :ymapplause:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Kermit » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:31 pm

Absolutely superb ! More soon please :) :ymapplause: :ymapplause:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Cluny » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:05 pm

This picture does not do her justice as she is simply stunning in the flesh :ymapplause:
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I shall post my vid up of the run asap ;)
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sooty655 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:12 pm

Cluny wrote:I shall post my vid up of the run asap ;)

Yes, please.

I missed it. ~x( I was doing the jobs I missed due to the Mountain Rescue Team call-out. :p
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:30 pm

Sooty655 wrote:
Cluny wrote:I shall post my vid up of the run asap ;)

Yes, please.

I missed it. ~x( I was doing the jobs I missed due to the Mountain Rescue Team call-out. :p



Well you missed a CRACKER! ;) ;) ;) ;)

Cluny's Video camera didn't shut down once, he's got some super footage and I will add my Stills when I get a chance tomorrow! ;)

Looking forward to the day (SOON) when they get the fourth engine up and running! ;)
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby LightningMk6 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:34 pm

Great pictures, brings back a few memories, especially the griffons, used to sit up there, cowlings hinged, checking out mag problems, drying off wet denims as the aircraft had just landed. 8 Squadron 74-76, Lossiemouth.
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Cluny » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:14 pm

Here you are ;)
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Olicat » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:23 pm

Absolutely fantastic vid Paul! Can't imagine that beast being quiet either!
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Sploosher » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:34 pm

what a great set of images that is............................. \:D/ \:D/


Will definately have to make a trip to see this beauty roar................ :ymapplause:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Dan4th » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:37 pm

I like to do my planning retroactively!
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:13 am

Glad you all enjoyed the run.

Cluny, that video is excellent, thanks for posting it.

I didn't manage to get any photo's of my own as I was engineer for the run, so was a bit busy. I also had the Mayor of Coventry stood at the side of me - which did nothing for my nerves given that this was my first time on the engineers panel after training!

Lucky for us, the aircraft behaved wonderfully. None of the coughing, or mag drop on No 3 that we had on last Saturday's practice. The whole crew is pleased with their efforts.

We ran out of time with the prop... eagle eyed visitors will have noticed it all stashed in a corner of the hangar, waiting for whoever has been tasked to build it. We're hoping it will be done in time for the next run on the 4th May, but the engine will require de-inhibiting and testing before we run it with the others publicly.

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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Xplumberlives » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:57 am

Well as you have probably noticed, Cluny and I really enjoyed the spectacle of a LIVE Shackleton, she does indeed look absolutely wonderful and is a great credit to the team that have done so much already.

So at 13:00 and with VIPs aboard, START No3 was signaled.

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Power was brought up……..

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And the bomb doors were exercised revealing that capacious bomb bay.

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Just look at the power as 3 and 4 come up to speed.

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No1 comes alive.

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She lives…….

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THANK YOU for a CRACKING SPECTACLE! :ymapplause:
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Re: Shackleton WR963

Postby Richw_82 » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:40 pm

I love that last low shot!

LightningMk6 wrote:Great pictures, brings back a few memories, especially the griffons, used to sit up there, cowlings hinged, checking out mag problems, drying off wet denims as the aircraft had just landed. 8 Squadron 74-76, Lossiemouth.


Cheers for keeping her going all those years, and to such a high standard. If she hadn't been that well maintained by the guys on the real 8 Sqn ;) then she wouldn't have made it as far as she has now.

Come and see her any Saturday, you'll be most welcome.

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