Formula One 2009 Season (Result Spoilers Possible)

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Dan4th » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:52 pm

I like to do my planning retroactively!
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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby RLN » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:23 pm

Yes, but not Aluminium.

Sir Humphrey Davy discovered it in 1808, and named it.
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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Dan4th » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:31 pm

Sorry, should have said "as we know it".
There was also a Dane in there and a
German and a Frog prior to Hill figuring
it all out.

Once again, lots of credit to go around,
proving my original point.

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Saracenman » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:54 am

Dan4th wrote:.........Carbon Fiber/Fibre invented by Union Carbide scientist
Roger Bacon in Cleveland, Ohio in 1958.........Rear Engined GP cars pioneered by Auto Union in the 30s........MacPherson Strut ........


CAD/CAM - yeah, i agree BUT........it wasn't around at all when Chapman was working his racetrack magic.......

your carbon fibre 'inventor' is a bit of a red herring; what he 'invented' (discovered really) had only a very low carbon content (less than 30% i think) and very little strength. using your "as we know it" addendum above, carbon fibre as a high-strength, usable material was DEFINITELY invented Farnborough - not only did they patent it, it made RR (as manufacturers) bankrupt when trying to make it work for Tristar RB211 engine fan-blades from it!

Farnborough pioneered carbon fibre's manufacture in the form it is to this day :)

agreed re the IDEA of rear engined cars, but it was Chapman who invented the idea of using the gearbox as the suspension mounting point, effectively making the gearbox the rear of the chassis - that's what i meant, sorry i should've been clearer

MacPherson Strut - completely agree :D

even so, aren't the majority of the Indy cars built in the UK? they certainly were in the 1990s

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Dan4th » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:36 am

There's always been quite a lot of trading of engineering,
more than most people know. The Murkin car is being
built by firms that already do a lot of F-1 engineering
work. The consortium impresses me by being understatedly
confident. As I say, We Shall See, and it might prove to
be interesting.

In the vein of there being lots of credit to go around, the
Farnborough folks might have brought carbon fibre/ber to
a higher state of perfection, it was Union Carbide that
kicked the whole thing off. Much in the way that aluminum/
aluminium was a British Discovery but a Murkin Development.
Does that make Humphrey Davy a Red Herring? NO!

AND you left out ground effects AND Auto Union was hugely
successful with their 16 cylinder rear-engined monsters.
Tranny case/engine block HAD to be used as structure and
mounting points because they were on to monocoque by that
time AND Colin Chapman would be the first to admit he had
lots of help from many quarters. He only won Indianapolis
after hiring a group of Murkin engineers to make his cars
strong enough not to break. And then there's the Engine
Thing.....Chapman got his ideas from wherever he could
lay his hands on them AND had a superb and inspired design
staff.

Know what? I am actually looking forward to next year's
F-1 season. I don't care WHO wins as long as their car isn't
RED!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Spitfire » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:39 am

Dan4th wrote:Know what? I am actually looking forward to next year's
F-1 season. I don't care WHO wins as long as their car isn't
RED!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Saracenman » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:55 am

Danf, could you argue that whoever it was that formated Chrome Vanadium, could be considered the inventor of the spanner?

Mr. Chapman machines might've been innovative, but they did tend to break a lot didn't they? :p

agreed on the Red comment too =))

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Dan4th » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:59 am

Saracenman wrote:Danf, could you argue that whoever it was that formated Chrome Vanadium, could be considered the inventor of the spanner?


Well, you sure as Hell can't make a spanner out of SPAM,
now can you?

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Saracenman » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:02 am

but surely the INVENTOR of SPAM is the same bloke who invented the pig, is he not? :-?

a bearded geezer on a cloud i believe :p

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Dan4th » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:10 am

Well, your parents invented YOU, SM..........

Does that make them liable for any damages
which might incur?

Past the Age of Majority, I mean.....

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Saracenman » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:17 am

=))

i was artistically created from a solid block of Blondinium! :D

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Dan4th » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:23 am

Whuz the Atno fer THAT?

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Dan4th » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:37 pm

I like to do my planning retroactively!
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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:25 pm

Saracenman wrote:=))
i was artistically created from a solid block of Blondinium! :D
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By heck, I bet that's rare stuff!
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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Cluny » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:27 pm

Dan4th wrote:OH YEAH????????????????



Pretty Twisty "OVAL"!

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Well i agree with the Yank , the Murkins can make some great Road Circuits ;)
Heres a few of my favs B-)

Mid Ohio


Road America [Elkhart Lake]


Cleveland [held at the airport]


Leguna Seca [the footage doesn't do the corkscrew justice]
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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Dan4th » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:53 pm

Thanks Cluny!

I've seen a variety of different kinds of racing at
Watkins Glen and Lime Rock Park over the years,
but it's been a while now....

The Laguna Seca Corkscrew resembles a certain
UK Kart Track which shall remain nameless, don't
you think?

Got the dates for the 2010 British GP?

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Saracenman » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:09 am

here you go Danf - prospective F1 2010 dates :)

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Spitfire » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:13 am

Saracenman wrote:here you go Danf - prospective F1 2010 dates :)

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Yeah 'prospective' and VERY provisional =)) =))

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Dan4th » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:15 am

Thanks, SM et David......

Dates aside, they ARE gonna have one Somewhere!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........................

What's the cost for your average racefan to witness
this historic spectacle? All told, I mean.....

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Saracenman » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:20 am

blimey - i think F1 tickets are about £80 aren't they?
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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Spitfire » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:22 am

British GP - I paid £95 each for my daughter and I some 4 years ago - standing trackside + diesel up from Cornwall for the day - another £50 :((

Not a cheap sport to spectate by a long way :( :-o and as I've said before I don't think I'd go again anyway - it was worth it the first time - less so the second ..... no I definitely wouldn't go again ;)
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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Dan4th » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:31 am

Well, EYE don't know........

I've watched a bit of racing but never a
GP race. If there is a Murkin Car or two
taking part and if I just happened to be
in England at the time for some reason, I
just might want to take-in the festivities!

WHO KNOWS?????????????????

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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Mayfly » Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:50 pm

I was told recently that practise day tickets are £95 - it was a fiver when I use to go :)) goodness knows what race day tickets are
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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Jigsaw » Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:03 pm

Test days are about 10 quid nowadays I think (used to be free).
Not a race but 6 hours or so of testing if all the teams are there is quite a good day out.
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Re: Formula One (Result Spoilers Possible)

Postby Xplumberlives » Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:03 pm

Mayfly wrote: goodness knows what race day tickets are



They are the expensive pieces of paper that allow you in to the circuit on RACE DAY! :p
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