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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dan4th » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:33 pm

:)) :)) :))

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby 34053 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:50 pm

The Frames look terrific, Dougs. :ymapplause: All well worth the effort, I'm sure you will agree.

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:09 pm

not had much time on speedy but I am still working on her design when I have a few mins so I thought it was time to update you on the progress of the axelboxes,
to recap these are the problem
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they have the bearing bushes in the middle which is not good as they are about 1/4" too low
these are the ones I have vs the original design which are split and will allow removal without "splitting the axel"
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so my new solution is to make some brass bushes and incorporate them into the original design so they will split allowing worn bushes to be replaced if required.
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its not a fantastic picture but basicly I make a split bearing that will fall into the original design quite nicely I do like simple solutions, it makes them less likley to not work. ;)
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Vulcan Bomber » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:21 pm

Looks to me like your going well with your build.

is now the right time for me to reveal i'm about 6 months into a very long build of a 5 inch gauge model of Robert Riddles finest Loco, the standard class 9 or 9f?
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dan4th » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:46 pm

Well then show us some PICS :D

C'mon, Vulcan Bomber, Pleeeeze????

Seriously, I'm sure we'd all be interested....

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Vulcan Bomber » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:00 pm

Dan4th wrote:Well then show us some PICS :D

C'mon, Vulcan Bomber, Pleeeeze????

Seriously, I'm sure we'd all be interested....

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I've not taken any pics of anything yet, when theres bits worth looking at I might start a build thread of my own.
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dan4th » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:24 pm

If you start a thread, we will all
be watching and having fun like
we do with Dougs, so please do
it if and when you can :D

Not "Aircraft", but still fun!

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:49 pm

Can't wait to see that :) vb I am now going off to google the class 9 ;)
And I'm back wow that's a monster 2-10-0 :-o :-o
Is it your first loco?
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Vulcan Bomber » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:42 am

Dougs wrote:Can't wait to see that :) vb I am now going off to google the class 9 ;)
And I'm back wow that's a monster 2-10-0 :-o :-o
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It is my first engine (nowt like jumping in at the deep end). I am actually a cnc machinest by trade so i havd access to some really clever kit at work and most of its produced from waste material from work. I'm very lucky in that respect
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:37 pm

I have to say I am quite jealous a cracking loco, it will be amazing when built. If you need any help at all you know where to find me I am not an expert by any means but I have got to know my way round a model loco reasonably well. :)
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:42 pm

I have been progressing slowly with the new axle boxes
First job was to cut the bushes out
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Next to machine up the faces
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One down one to go
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Both done from the center axle
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I also went to the midlands model engineering exhibition today and although they did not have any speedy's they did have a 7 1/4" gauge version "paddington" wow
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I could have spent all day taking photo's of it absolutely lovely model
Anyway I got loads of materials to continue the build including all the bits I need to make the axle boxes and finish the frame.
I also got some authentic paint to do a full respray on butch but that's for another time.
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dan4th » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:48 pm

Krikey!

How many men does it take to
MOVE that thing?????

Lovely piece of work, though :ymapplause:

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:07 pm

Dan4th wrote:Krikey!

How many men does it take to
MOVE that thing?????

Lovely piece of work, though :ymapplause:

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Quite a few :))
I would estimate about 160kg or 350lb unbelievable heavy :-o
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby 34053 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:26 pm

Thank you for the Update, Dougs. Also for the pics of that beautiful model Locomotive. Fantastic!

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:05 am

slow but steady progress i have almost finished the first axle box got quite a bit more milling to do then bore the hole for the axle but its definately getting there
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby 34053 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:23 pm

Thank you for the Update, Dougs.

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:03 pm

Been back at building my loco again having now got my restoration out of the way :D
Finished off the prototype Axle box
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I was told the best way to make multiple parts was to work as if I am doing a batch so I set about doing some milling operations to progress the other five axle boxes so got the parts all cut to size
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I then got all the others to fit nicely a lot more machining to do to finish them off but a good start
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Spitfire » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:16 pm

Brilliant ... what skill you have :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:54 pm

Spitfire wrote:Brilliant ... what skill you have :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:

Thanks, you should see my scrap bin ;) :p
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Aceyone » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:59 am

Fascinating stuff,when I think I used to struggle with Airfix models !
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:09 pm

Spent all day machining and feel like I didn't get far but these axle boxes are very complex and the more accurate I get them the better I will be off later on when I get further into the build,
So with a new batch job way of working planned out I set about machining up the boxes
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The groves hold the brass bushes in place
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And it's repeated on the top bush
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All lined up ready for final machining to size note the peg drilled in the side to hold the whole assembly together
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The first axle pair machined and fitted to the frame
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I still have to bore the hole for the axle and drill a couple of holes for the spring pins but getting there.
On a slightly side note all this very laborious machining has inspired me to fit a power traverse to my milling machine so I have bought a motor and speed controller from Ebay and will set about making that when it all arrives should make milling a lot more fun.
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Vulcan Bomber » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:09 pm

Nice work there.

Your not going the whole hog then and making it into a CNC machine??
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:20 pm

Vulcan Bomber wrote:Nice work there.

Your not going the whole hog then and making it into a CNC machine??

Hi VB no I decided not to bother as I like to do the machining myself where possible and the programming will take longer than just doing it anyway as most of the parts are generally one offs. CNC wise I have access to 5 axis grinding, milling and laser cutting, laser drilling and laser milling oh and some EDM machines too, at work so bit pointless spending time and money to make a very cheap version of a CNC machine.
I quite like the pain and effort to do it the "old way" even though my grandfather was horrified by my use of scales on my lathe and miller ;) an awful lot of bits are available now from suppliers ready made, but I don't want to build a kit. I want to make as much as I can, and in the case of the axle boxes make my own design if I feel it's doable. I personally don't think there is a wrong way as I do it for fun. If someone wants to build from CNC parts and they enjoy it then that's awesome. For me it's the making that is the best part \:D/ I am luckily in no rush to get finished, although I have just got some plans for a traction engine :ymblushing: :-o
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby 34053 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:21 am

Many thanks for the Update, Dougs. A 'Traction Engine'.......................................I just Love the thought of that! :D

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Vulcan Bomber » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:20 pm

Dougs wrote:
Vulcan Bomber wrote:Nice work there.

Your not going the whole hog then and making it into a CNC machine??

Hi VB no I decided not to bother as I like to do the machining myself where possible and the programming will take longer than just doing it anyway as most of the parts are generally one offs. CNC wise I have access to 5 axis grinding, milling and laser cutting, laser drilling and laser milling oh and some EDM machines too, at work so bit pointless spending time and money to make a very cheap version of a CNC machine.
I quite like the pain and effort to do it the "old way" even though my grandfather was horrified by my use of scales on my lathe and miller ;) an awful lot of bits are available now from suppliers ready made, but I don't want to build a kit. I want to make as much as I can, and in the case of the axle boxes make my own design if I feel it's doable. I personally don't think there is a wrong way as I do it for fun. If someone wants to build from CNC parts and they enjoy it then that's awesome. For me it's the making that is the best part \:D/ I am luckily in no rush to get finished, although I have just got some plans for a traction engine :ymblushing: :-o



Thats fully understandable. :)

Some reading here for you if your interested?
http://modeleng.proboards.com/thread/86 ... ues?page=1

And just so you know, there is now a 9F on the GCR to live. :)
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