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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:01 pm

Quick update
The frames are in paint and will be dry in a few days
A nice shiny hard wearing black on the outside
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This should be the very last time they are apart
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby 34053 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:27 pm

Thanks Dougs; they really look 'the business'. What colour inside the frames? A nice shade of yellow?

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:38 pm

34053 wrote:Thanks Dougs; they really look 'the business'. What colour inside the frames? A nice shade of yellow?

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The insides are red and finish painted so this should be the last of the paint (except touch ups )on the frames
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:27 am

Just got back from a local show they had a local model engineering club running loco's one was a simplex very similar to my "butch" loco
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And ironically the worst attempt at a 15xx class (speedy) loco I have ever seen :-o :-o
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Looks a bit like they lost the plans halfway through the build :p
Anyway back to the update the frames now loose assembled in finished paint
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I am having trouble deciding what colour to make the loco there are two options either GWR green
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Or BR black
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I can feel a poll coming on
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dan4th » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:29 am

I'd say you can't lose either way :D

A coin flip would be as good as a poll :))

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby 34053 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:11 pm

Locomotive Liveries - a very controversial subject amongst the 'purists'! Personally, it's a very close call, but I like the 'BR Black'.
Thanks for the pics, Dougs.

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:33 pm

the BR Black is more recognised as it is the livery on the surviving 1501 the obvious next problem is what number to use ~x( :)
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dan4th » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:43 pm

1) You might consider something that is
historically related to Coalville in some way....

2) You could chuck the whole tradition thing
and make up a whole new mythical railroad
and an entire back story for the loco...

Actually, I'm absolutely certain you will make
good decisions that suit you and you alone ;)

I am also absolutely certain that you will be
extr. proud of the finished product except
for the few inevitable niggly bits you'd do
differently :))

Oh, and roll the dice for your numbers....

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:11 pm

Dan4th wrote:1) You might consider something that is
historically related to Coalville in some way....

2) You could chuck the whole tradition thing
and make up a whole new mythical railroad
and an entire back story for the loco...

Actually, I'm absolutely certain you will make
good decisions that suit you and you alone ;)

I am also absolutely certain that you will be
extr. proud of the finished product except
for the few inevitable niggly bits you'd do
differently :))

Oh, and roll the dice for your numbers....

It's Good Luck B-)

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Lol thanks Dan4th but the closest a 1500 class came to Coalville was Coventry a good few miles away I am very tempted to go down the historical route in a homage to the type ;)
Thanks minty I looked up wiki a while back I still want to go to bridge north for a look at her at some point
I also have some cracking shots of the refirb from a few years ago they came from their web site news update section
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:38 pm

Been building again
First off split the wheels
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So I can remove these little blighters
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I can now remake them the correct size
As the frames are now complete I thought I would finish off the buffer beams
Marking up the rivet positions
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All the rivets hammered home
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A quick test fit of the buffers before I drill the 4 holes in the corners to fit them to the beam
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The the first coat of paint
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The rear beam riveted and painted with its first coat
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Quite a bit of work to finish off the front beam including ordering some new 7BA bolts and lots of paint then I can assemble the whole frame :) the front and rear beams being the only remaining fixed elements that are missing
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dan4th » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:53 pm

All Good :D

How are your fingers :)) ?

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:57 pm

All present and accounted for :p
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby 34053 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:56 am

Thank you, Dougs. I've said it before and I'll say it again - I just love these 'work in progress' photos. Great stuff :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :D

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:50 pm

I have a devious and cunning plan,
the problem i have is with the axle boxes they are not good at the moment as the holes have been drilled in the middle of the blocks and should be more towards the tops, the following two pic show the issue
the axel bushes are dead center and although the boxes dont match the drawing it is a quite common method of making them
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however i am thinking to modify them to the design on the drawing so i can make some new split bushes this will then mean if i ever have to replace the bushes then i can do it without having to split the wheels again
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dan4th » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:56 pm

Hmmmmm......

Isn't that old-timey detail drawing
a little low-tech for you, Dougs :ymdevil: ?

I'm sure everything will be perfect,
though.....

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:18 pm

Dan4th wrote:Hmmmmm......

Isn't that old-timey detail drawing
a little low-tech for you, Dougs :ymdevil: ?

I'm sure everything will be perfect,
though.....

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very low tech for me Dan4th its from the drawings for the loco from 1950's I photocopy the bits I am making so as not to damage the originals, just to keep it 21's centry I have a copy on my ipad too :p
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:16 pm

The front buffer is now complete and fitted to the frames
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Some of the beam is still in primer this will get painted later after more parts are added
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dan4th » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:32 am

I see where you are going ;)

Makes sense to ME!

I won't be happy until I've heard
the WHISTLE, though :)) :))

Nice work, Dougs :ymapplause:

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby 34053 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:00 am

Thank you for the Update, Dougs. Looking good :)

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:51 pm

Just a small update the ducks legs are going a pace below the waterline though I am collecting parts and materials that I need for the build so at some point there will be a burst of activity however for now it's the slow laborious job of painting.
The holes and fixings for the front are all done so I can finish off the paint on the front beam and
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start the base coats on the back beam which will be going on the miller soon to have the last of the bolt holes drilled and tapped
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The other news is the axel boxes have now been planned out and they will now be re machined to almost completely to drawing with one small addition in he form of a couple of split bearings, should be good fun making them :)
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby 34053 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:17 pm

Thank you Dougs. Keep up the good work - very important task the painting. ;)

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:27 pm

A fairly big mile stone today the frames are now complete :D
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All the stretchers and beams are final fitted and painted
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Now I can concentrate on getting the wheels back on and get a rolling chassis I have six axle boxes to make and then it's onto the cylinders :D
I am going to a model engineering show in a couple of weeks and I have pre ordered a whole load of parts and materials for it. :)
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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dan4th » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:42 pm

Nice :D !

Onward and Upward!!!!

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Re: New build 5" Gauge 15xx class loco "Speedy"

Postby Dougs » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:23 pm

Dan4th wrote:Nice :D !

Onward and Upward!!!!

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If I was being pedantic it would be down, up then onwards =)) =)) :p
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