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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:06 pm

Keep the updates coming please..... :ymapplause:
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:15 pm

Right getting to the leak first off I had to remove the side running board this was tricky as I had to remove the tank again then I will better be able to see the exact location of the leak
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Once removed I could see the condition of the motion and wheels
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There is a bit of corrosion that I will need to tackle before it all goes back together
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I had to remove the valve chest lid again and remove the lubrication pipe on the top
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Then had to remove all the studs holding the valve chest to the piston
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Next came the smoke box this was not an easy job at all once this was removed it made the removal of the last steam fitting quite easy shown in the middle of the photo
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Then the valve came off no problem and the leak was very obvious to see although not on the photo the leak was from the second stud from the bottom left I could see where the oil and air tracked its way through the gasket the whole job is on stop for now until I get some gasket paper I ordered which is half the thickness of the one I previously made the bottom gasket is way more important than the top one regarding the thickness as it would affect the clearances for the valve.
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Finally I removed the boiler and spectacle plate again as this will make refitting easier and it was all only held by a couple of bolts so wasn't a big job at this point.
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:26 pm

Someone's been busy again......
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:32 pm

Tinkering day today been messing around prepping cleaning and detailing
Took all of the removed valve box studs and cleaned up the threads ready for reassembly
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Spent some time cleaning and detailing the chassis painted any chips I found on the rails
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Then de-corroded the 'motion'
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:53 pm

I have just caught up with the 'progress to date' and am very impressed. Just love the 'step-by-step' detail of all the procedures. As has already been said: 'keep 'em coming'!

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:58 pm

Can't wait to check this thread every night....keep the updates coming please :ymapplause:
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:52 pm

Thanks, I am glad you guys are enjoying the updates I have to say I am really hooked, I have always enjoyed tinkering (home) and latterly precision engineering (work), unfortunately my wife is not so keen lol. I have ordered my first bit of track, I may be getting ahead of myself but I thought I would get the first of three 2m sections it is just the rails I will have to make the rest (sleepers etc.) however I think the building/fixing will be way more fun than using. At least for me. My son may enjoy driving it ;) .
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dan4th » Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:13 am

My son may enjoy driving it


Boys your son's age enjoy driving ANYTHING!!!!!

=)) =)) =)) =))

And at least Wifey knows RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE
whilst tinkering :p

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Aceyone » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:17 am

Absolutely fascinating ,thanks for posting !
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:58 pm

Now that will be a train set and a half......
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:16 pm

Mackrick wrote:Now that will be a train set and a half......

Lol now you are talking you can get points and bends every thing an over grown kid needs ;)
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:28 pm

Dougs wrote:
Mackrick wrote:Now that will be a train set and a half......

Lol now you are talking you can get points and bends every thing an over grown kid needs ;)


Great Stuff!!! :D

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:34 pm

Hours fun.... Oh and I'd let the grandchildren have a ride as well....
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:17 pm

Hopefully got quite a few years till I get any of those :D ;)
Got my delivery today two sheets of gasket paper :)
Cutting up the paper to the rough size
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Next I put both blanks down on a bit of scrap wood and clamped them down with the valve chest lid held tight down with a gee clamp then trimmed the edges I then used a drill to drill though the holes in the lid though the gasket and into the wood
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Then trimmed the center out with the valve chest as a template
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Then used gasket seal to make sure the seal will be good
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Then laid down the gaskets and started to put the studs back in
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Then put the lid on and tightened down the bolts
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All done next got to put all the rest back together
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:27 pm

All coming together nicely now.

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dan4th » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:06 am

One Very Good Thing about all this maintenance,
rectification and general "spiffing-up" is that
when you're done you will know this locomotive
inside-out and almost as well as if you'd built
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:43 pm

:D :D keep them coming please
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:24 pm

Ok now on to the rebuild and most important pressure test on the new seals
Most importantly I made sure that the 12 year old "special fuel" was available for consumption by the chief engineer ( me, hic)
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First off refitted the lubrication non return valve to the lid of the valve chest
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Refitting the lubrication pipe
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Refitting the smoke box the union I am doing up is the main steam inlet to the valve
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Next came the exhaust manifold
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This fits into the smoke box and as an expanding joint to bridge the two pistons
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All tightened up
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Inside the smoke box
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Exhaust blower fitted awaiting the feed pipe from the fire draw valve, this has two jobs first the exhaust blows out of the center drawing the fire up the chimney and second the pipe fitting seen sticking out pipes steam up the chimney to draw the fire via a control valve to keep the boiler burning hot when the engine is standing still and not exhausting up the chimney
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Boiler back on and pipes connected back up
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Tank refitted
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All connected up I put some compressed air on and checked for leaks happy to report all is well and air tight
Just got to refit the water pipes and then fire up the boiler for a full test :)
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:03 pm

You can't stop there.... :(( :((
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dan4th » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:02 pm

Dougs::::::::::::

What is the approximate weight of the
locomotive all assembled and ready to
rock and roll?????

Also, do you intend to name her????

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:51 pm

Mackrick wrote:You can't stop there.... :(( :((

I had too I got one of those looks you know the one, that if ignored you gonna pay, big time! :(
Dan4th I would guess around 25-30kg but you have me intrigued so I will weigh it this weekend and the models all have names ( of the design) this one is 'butch' so I don't think I will bother with another name if it was a more classy type like an Atlantic or Britannia or even my fave pacific class then I would name it but I think butch fits quite nicely.
Right I finished putting the pipes back on and refitted the tin work it's all ready for a steam up this weekend I will hopefully take a video this will be a static run up as I don't have a track to run yet and I would like to check it all over anyway when it's up to full working pressure. As a teaser here are some photo's of the fully assembled loco.
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I am taking it round to my grandfathers house to steam it up its his birthday next week he will be 90 and I want him to see his dads train running again :)

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The weight is 106lb or 48kg :-o
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:47 pm

How fantastic she now looks. Well done Dougs, you must be very proud indeed with what you have achieved! I am sure that there will be a tear in your grandfather's eyes (and maybe yours as well?) when he sees what you have done.

I, for one, will be very sorry when this 'project' ends :( You have kept us enthralled and totally 'hooked', all the way through. Terrific!!!!

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:24 pm

34053 wrote:
I, for one, will be very sorry when this 'project' ends :( You have kept us enthralled and totally 'hooked', all the way through. Terrific!!!!

PW

Thanks PW he was really happy and really enjoyed steaming it up

However, the fun is by no means near an end lol, we found another load of issues while we steamed up now I have a full bottom end strip down to do as things are not quite correct, it had a fair bit of trouble getting it started, something I had a feeling was an issue. A few years ago I built a mill engine and it works a treat, has no problem starting, and is very free running. Butch on the other hand is VERY stiff to rotate, something I was not sure about as I have never had a reference to go by on a model as big as this. But things are not right, I asked to check over the other loco chassis 'speedy' and even though it has been standing on a shelf upside down for forty years, it spins over with the lightest of touches the same can not be said for Butch it is locked up solid in comparison.
So in short much more fun awaits me in the workshop :D

Oh and on a side note I have had a look at Speedy and that project is a go when ever I fancy it so I have a full steam engine build to look forward to next, once I am happy with the one I have got to play with now :D :D :D
It is MASSIVE compared to Butch (about 1/3 longer) so I am not going to rush into it just yet, I am going to get more experience first.

Sorry I don't have a video of it running ( had too many panic attacks lol) it is alot harder than it looks to operate but I did take some stills between the "oh heck it shouldn't do that's". I will post a write up soon.
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dan4th » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:39 pm

Sorry I don't have a video of it running ( had too many panic attacks lol) it is alot harder than it looks to operate than it looks but I did take some stills between the "oh heck it shouldn't do that's" .
I will post a write up soon.


Oh yes, I'm sure that's Exactly what you said =))

I'm also sure you came up with a few choice names
should you ever change your mind about naming her :))

Meanwhile, I'm confident you will find the solution!

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:27 pm

Ha ha u so right =)) we both got our fingers burnt literally Ba$t^rd would be a more appropriate name for it today
Any way started up with the fire, loaded the boiler with wood and a couple of paraffin soaked tissues
A nice warm glow can be seen on the fire grate
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Coal loaded up and well alight pressure up to 50psi
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Now things started to go south very quickly lol, the seals I fitted to the sight glass turned out needed to be a bit tighter as water decided to leave the boiler very rapidly filling the whole cab with hot water and steam requiring me to poach my hand nipping up the fittings, next the pressure shot up to 100 psi and settled down as the safety valves opened up I then warmed up the cylinders by shooting hot steam through them I learnt that if you don't do this then the steam condenses in the cold cylinders and it shoots water and oil out of the chimney giving you a shower experience that can't be described only experienced :-o next came the start up, just like a car I put it in gear and opened it up, and............ Nothing not a damn thing, so I then put it in reverse and opened it up and........... Nothing again, at this point I was getting a little embarrassed about the loco's stage fright, then pop it shot off like a scolded cat and nearly jumped off the table. I tried forward and again nothing then pop same again I managed to slow it down a bit and left it running for a few mins just to show my grandad it running but I am soo not happy about the lack of control. So we let it cool a little and blew down the boiler (emptying it)
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It did look great outside
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It was then tea 'o' clock to let things cool down
A quick clean up and all done back to the workshop for a strip down and find why it's locking up :D
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