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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:57 pm

Hopefully some home stretch news,
I had a reply from the club saying that my membership will be considered at the next committee meeting
In preparation for running I am trying to source a 12v fan that I can use to draw the fire on the boiler
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Tried this one but its way too powerful it will prob pull the coal out of the fire box :p time to go shopping
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dan4th » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:01 am

Tried this one but its way too powerful it will prob pull the coal out of the fire box


Why not just run it through a
rheostat so you can control the
fan speed :D ?

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:01 am

Dan4th wrote:
Tried this one but its way too powerful it will prob pull the coal out of the fire box


Why not just run it through a
rheostat so you can control the
fan speed :D ?

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Lol I tried that dan4th it's digitally controlled so it just speeds up and trips out due to excess current, I found one last night for about £3.50 so it's game on! :)
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:39 pm

Pleased that you located the fan you needed, Dougs. Keep us posted!

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:06 pm

Great news my membership came through I am now a paid up member of the Northwest Leicestershire Society of Experimental Model Emgineers \:D/ :D
I have been doing some detail work on Butch
Shackles anyone?
Bending the rod
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Half a shackle the hoop is made by filing half the diameter then bent over and brazed
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It has to pass through the hook before the second hoop is formed
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The first shackle all done well mostly
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The completed shackle
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And on the loco
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Just have the other half of the assembly to make then I get to do it all again
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dan4th » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:58 pm

I mostly know about shackles from
sailing, but even so, they are a more
versatile piece of hardware than most
people realize...

I have one I've used as a key fob for
well over 25 years :D !

I have never MANUFACTURED one, though :))

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:56 pm

Dan4th wrote:I mostly know about shackles from
sailing, but even so, they are a more
versatile piece of hardware than most
people realize...

I have one I've used as a key fob for
well over 25 years :D !

I have never MANUFACTURED one, though :))

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Me neither tis my very first one Dan4th
A couple of update pics
All cleaned up
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Fitted to the front of the loco
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Close up shot
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One down one to go
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:30 pm

They look really great, Dougs. Well done :ymapplause:

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:34 pm

34053 wrote:They look really great, Dougs. Well done :ymapplause:

PW

Thanks PW they are my very first attempt so I am hoping to improve quite a bit by the time I make the set for Speedy
I have a technique now that I can improve on so hopefully I can get them just right
It is also my first silver soldering job too which seems very easy to do I have an awfull lot to do when I build the boiler on speedy so need all the practice I can get :)
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:26 pm

I have been busy again making the rear shackle links
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Just have to get them finished by stripping the metal back to bare
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Almost finished :D
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:56 pm

Thanks Dougs. Looks great!

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:52 pm

Wowsers what a busy day, it all started with a trip down to the club to arrange a boiler test, I took the loco with me and a copy of the original test cert. I spoke the the club boiler tester who had a look at the loco and said he was happy with the construction and as it had been tested before it would not require a full strip down, and it would be helpfull to test it on the loco which will verify the water pump and pressure guage :) so with a plan setup I returned home to make the required blanking plugs
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I then decided to pump up the boiler and do my own "pre-test" I found just about every fitting in the boiler leaks at 160psi ~x( so I decided to go at them one by one
The regulator bush first
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Unfortunately the rod in the above pic fell out of the regulator and wouldn't go back in so I had to strip the regulator too :-o it was starting to become a BIG job now grr
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It also gave me the opportunity to fix a little problem it had when the regulator closes it has no stop so closes and goes further to open again so I decided to make a stop for it while I had it to bits
The below pic shows the closed position but it will go much higher than this position
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The open position below
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The stop being made
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The stop fitted the slide will now not go up past the closed position
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As I have a small leak through the regulator I decided to remove the chimney and super heater and block it all off so it will make the testers job a doodle and I can check it all over as well.
I also made a blank for this end and resealed the blower valve pipework to the left
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And then the other end re sealed
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The loco now ready for testing
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And all the removed parts the super heater elements and safety valves etc.
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Phew I am going for a lie down :)
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:20 pm

You certainly have had a busy day, Dougs. I am very impressed indeed :ymapplause: :ymapplause: Well done!

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:38 pm

Turns out the superheater element needs to be tested during the boiler test so out came all the tools again to make some more blanks :-o
Four blanks required to block the superheater, first off the wet header no.1
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Then no. 2
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Then two more on the hot header
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Some really odd threads on some of the fittings they are BSB (british standard brass 26tpi)
Hopefully that's it the next instalment should be a boiler test in progress with a nice shiny new cert. at the end of it.
All loaded up ready to go
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I will be taking all my parts and tools just in case though :D
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dan4th » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:49 pm

At least you won't be needing one of these::::::::::

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:p :p :p

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:19 pm

Hope all goes well with the Boiler/Superheater Tests, Dougs.

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:50 pm

Thanks PW I do feel a bit like an expectant father at the moment
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:04 pm

just for giggles I decided to make a web site about my hobby its a big work in progress but have a look and tell me what you think and any ideas and sugestions would be great. :)
the address is
http://WWW.modelsteamloco.co.uk
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:59 pm

Website looks good Dougs. Has a lot of potential.
BTW, congratulations on passing the 900 Views for this particular Topic. :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dan4th » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:41 pm

I agree with PW :ymapplause:

Just make sure you leave yourself enuff
time to Work On The Locomotives :)) !

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:40 pm

Thanks guys the new web site is only a luch break project at work so won't dent my loco time I have been tinkering tonight as it happens making more progress on speedy :D an update should be forthcoming in a few days when the next part is complete.
Still looking forward to getting the boiler test done this weekend then and only then can I finally get the old girl steaming round the track :)
Although it looks like I am going to have to do some driver training first ~x(
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:43 pm

The boiler test
Well the boiler test is split into two parts a hydraulic test and if that goes well a steam test
So the first part checked and it works fine it has to be pumped up to 1.5 times the working pressure no issues there it only leaked a tiny bit through the fittings.
So with that part complete I started to build it back up for the steam test
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They guys were not happy with my fire starting kit so it got binned and they took over note the fan on the chimney
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Well turns out butch is a fussy old girl and would not start at all got total stage fright even though I have never not been able to get the boiler lit it just would not get going
So I couldn't complete the test unfortunately I have now got to wait till the 13th till it can get checked out which is just as well as it would not pass the steam test any way.
The problem is the steam pressure is only allowed to go 10% above working pressure! it currently goes 20% above so the safety valves will need setting up.
I got it home and decided to light it up to do another pre test to check it will pass the next stage
Back to my old trusted method of starting up front door open
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And alight no problems at all ~x(
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Got full steam on so all up a good day not quite ready to run but at least it has a boiler cert on its way :) :D
Also got loads of useful info and tips from the guys at the club I am going to have a very busy "off season"
Loads and loads of mods to do
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:01 pm

Must have been quite a disappointment for you, Dougs. Temperamental things these Locos. ;) Hope all goes well on the 13th. At least it's not a Friday. But then, I'm not superstitious, 'touch wood' :D

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dan4th » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:45 pm

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's all I have to say ~x(

Better times are on the way :D !

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:24 pm

Thanks guys I am not too down hearted it is an old loco after all and all the problems so far have been little ones I just got a little disappointed it didn't get done on the day but as I am finding you can't rush these things. I am also quickly finding the difference between a model and a work horse butch was a model definitely not a work horse. :)
I need to reset my thinking put my new loco on the shelf set butch right and move on from there. I have so much to learn, I need to use butch as an apprenticeship find out what to do and what not to do, what works and what does not. At the moment I feel like I have been driving through fog I can only see what's just in front of me the more I do and the closer I get to having a running loco the more I find I have to fix and make better.
When I go to the club and see how well the loco's work there It shows just how much more I need to do to get it up to scratch, I feel at the moment that it will work but it won't be great so I am going to spend some more time and effort on just one loco. Hope fully then I won't feel so pressured to getting it running.
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