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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:44 pm

Another busy day I got half a day to work on the loco so I thought I would use the time getting it "rolling again"
First job was to make a new eccentric drive bushing.
I pushed the old bush out of the coupling rod
Turned up a new bit of bar to the same diameter then put 0.007" shim on one of the jaws as seen in the photo which is about 0.177mm just short of the 0.2mm that we measured the crank to be out but still well within my 50micron self enforced tolerance.
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Then I used a center drill to spot the new middle of the bush and drilled successfully bigger drills
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I marked the thin wall before I removed it from the lathe this will aid fitting the bush into the coupling rod in the correct orientation.
Now at roughly the correct size I found I didn't have a reamer the correct size, so I had to roll emery paper up into a roll and hand fit the bush till it slid on, then pushed the bush into the coupling rod and found I had to do it all again ~x( anyway got an extremely good fit now
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Spun the now coupled wheels over by hand let go and it continued to do a further rotation so binding has now clearly gone completely \:D/
Happy with my success I decided to refit one on the pistons and all the motion brackets and links as I had one of the sides all cleaned up and ready to fit
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As a teaser I decided to try one of the newly painted running boards for fit
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All done for this weekend I decided that was enough and I don't want to upset the boss so swapping my spanners for the Hoover.
I did find the piston is a little tighter than I would like but then it is relatively unused so it should loosen up with a bit of use so for now I won't be taking it apart.
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:05 pm

Your perseverence is now paying off, Dougs.Well done :ymapplause:

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:11 pm

thanks PW its a hard slog but it will be worth it if i can get it running nicely :) oh and looking nice too!

i nipped round to see my grandfather and show him the progress and he said he had spoken to his brother about how i had cleaned "butch" up and got it running and he asked about the #1 engine their dad (my great grandad) had built a 3.5" guage "maise" this is an atlantic loco, here is a 'Prime example' of the model
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aparently it has not fared very well and has lost alot of paint and has been rusting away for a very long time :( i think my grandad seems keen on getting it back to working condition, as unfortunately my great uncle has only girls and they inturn have no children i think he wants it to come back my way rather than see it scrapped, so i may yet, in the future end up with yet another "project" :-o it never really occured to me until yesterday, but i bet my great uncle would love to see the reconditioned "butch" when it is complete as it was his dads passion for many years.
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:14 pm

Another 'project' - great news for us, but you may well need a bit of R & R after 'Butch' ;)

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:02 pm

No rest for the wicked PW ;)
I have a bit of a treat for you guys I have rebuilt the other piston and linkages and I will post a very detailed write up of that tomorrow :)
If you have ever wondered what all the linkages do on a loco well I have done a video which shows what it is doing,

The slide I am rocking is moved by the driving wheel and rocks forward and backwards once every turn of the main wheel the bar that links to the valve to the left gets lifted up or down by the reversing lever so basically moves the valve into forward or reverse depending on weather the connecting bar is up or down if its in the middle then the valve won't move, I hope the video makes more sense than my description :p

ok first off we start with a set of coupled wheels without a piston
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first off I fit the con rod to the cross head as its really hard to get to once fitted and hold the cylinder up against the frames and tap the dowels in to locate the assembly
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then put the two air fittings into the cylinder Exhaust at the bottom and inlet steam at the top
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then i start to fit the bolts holding the cylinder
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and then fit the two slide bars to the motion bracket
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and bottom one
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then I fit the valve to cross head link bar
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then i undo it and put it the right way round :p
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next up is the conrod to the crank this is easy as its a split bearing
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now thats conected i tighten up the slide bars
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that then leaves me with this little lot so i give them a quick cleanup be fore fitting
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and undo the motion bracket
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and drop this little baby in no idea what its called tho :(
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then put the bracket back together it staring to look right at last
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fit the bolts back in to the link bar
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then add the valve drive crank arm this has a taper pin to lock it in place
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that is driven home with a suitably scaled mallet :D
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and then bolted as well so it wont get away :p
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then the conrod for the valve arm is fitted and again driven home with a tiny mallet
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tadahhhh!
finished
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a quick check to make sure all the bolts are done up and on to the paint area to prime up some more parts for paint
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:49 pm

Thank you, Dougs. At least that size of mallet gives a good 'sense of scale'. :D

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Minty4371 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:32 pm

Dougs. Does this help, or hinder. Found on line.
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:52 pm

That's a nice diagram thanks minty I have saved it in my useful info folder, I know all the parts are labeled up on the drawings but I was being way too lazy to sift through 12 a0 sheets ;) that diagram is way quicker

I have got a couple of days off as I wait for the painted parts to dry so I am trying to be patient and do some jobs round the house to keep the boss happy :p
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:11 pm

I go away for a couple of days to,play with airplanes and look what happens.....videos.....engineering, photos...write ups.....re builds....and humour as well... Thanks Dougs :ymapplause:
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:29 pm

LOL thanks mackrick i am still painting at the moment so no real updates i am taking my time on this part, there is nothing worse than messing up your paintwork by rushing back to assembly.
I may have the drain cocks and assosiated parts done very soon so i will post some updates on that when i get finished :)
then i think its onto the brakes, i am however "bugged" by the piston/ pistons and i have a voice in my head saying take it apart and fix it. i think i posted that i thought it was too stiff.
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:02 pm

Enjoy your painting, Dougs. As they say: 'a change is a good as a rest'. You can then return to your tasks suitably 'refreshed' (I hope) ;)

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:44 pm

Keep up the good work ....
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:29 pm

Update on progress
Went and put the smokebox back on
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Connected the lubricator
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And the water pump
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Then put the drain cock valve assembly on
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Then I put the brake parts out ready for sub assembly some bits need a bit of a touch up
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Then decided to do a couple of before and after photos
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:07 pm

Looking good Dougs .....
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:40 pm

you know that voice in the back of my head, well it would seem he knows alot more than i do and i should listen to him more often :ymblushing:
I removed the piston last night
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I found a 45 yearold oring thats gone very hard is the cause of all my woes
good news it the bore is in exelent condition
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bad news is i have got to do the other side as well and i have yet another clean up job
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i do wish i had done this a few days ago it would have been much easier to do with the cylinders off the frame ~x(
i also have some more gaskets to make which should be fun :)
its all progress!!
oh and you know the smell you get in old aircraft the oring smells just like that kinda, nostalgic and fusty!! :-o
if anyone would like there own mobile fusty cockpit smell please send a stamped adressed envelope i have two going begging :p
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:01 pm

Thank you for the Update, Dougs. Yes, if it's any consolation, there are quite a few 'if only' moments with the 'full size' versions as well ~x(

Keep up the good work :D

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Mackrick » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:59 pm

Tha little voice is something we should all listen to and ignore at our peril....another step in the right direction Dougs, and at the end of the day you'll have the satisfaction of knowing everything has been done correctly.

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:17 pm

Update
Both o rings replaced the first one as you saw I took the whole front assembly apart on the other one I just took the back off the cylinder and undid the piston from the cross head and pushed the piston out the other end much easier
Anyway here is the first side finished
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I replaced the old orings which on the drawings show grafite yarn, orings are obviously better and seal really well however I may upgrade later to PTFE Teflon orings which are the dogs danglies for this type of steam cylinder giving both long life and low friction
After finishing the second side I moved on with the assembly you can just see the cylinder cover all clean and shiny on the right side
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Put the refirbed reversing lever on and connected some pipe work to the pump
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And an over view picture quite keen on getting it put together for a steam test now it's more likely working properly
There are loads of jobs that I need to go back to like a full respray but I am going to hold off as my primary goal is still to make it work well first then make it look nice later plus I have some track to put together and a carriage to build so I can use it properly.
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:43 pm

Just caught up with your latest update, Dougs. Thank you. You're very wise in going ahead with concentrating on achieving a proper steam test. As you say, all the 'tarting up' can wait. Really enjoying these ongoing Reports. A very successful Topic and I am pleased that it has attracted the interest it rightly deserves. :ymapplause:

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:15 pm

Ok a near full day of activity only interrupted by some extended family car repairs (sister in law) had to explane that driving on tyres that have canvas showing is not acceptable X(
So I got the first tank on
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And the reversing lever link bars
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Boiler back on
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And secured down so it won't fly away
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Other side tank on and spectacle plate fixed
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I then decided to make up my first 2m of rail
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I had to drill the rails for fish plates then make them
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I have another 4 meters of rail on order so I will have to make another set of fish plates and two sets of buffers oh and I need to make a trolly to sit on too
Just got the water pipes to fit and I can do a steam up, I am still waiting for paint to dry on the brakes but they can wait as I won't be going anywhere on the steam test.
Turned around to work on the pipework
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after all that work I had a appropriate dinner drink
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby 34053 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:44 pm

Great to see the Locomotive all coming together nicely now, Dougs.

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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Sooty655 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:01 pm

You really must make some proper shoes for your track ~ self-tapping pozi-screws and penny washers don't do justice to the rest of the engineering. :p :p
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:11 am

Sooty655 wrote:You really must make some proper shoes for your track ~ self-tapping pozi-screws and penny washers don't do justice to the rest of the engineering. :p :p

I am with you on that one Sooty however it would be prohibitively expensive/time consuming to buy/make so many for 6m of temporary/ moveable track when I build the next loco speedy I am going to sit it on "show track" which will have shoes and ballast, I may even use some hard wood sleepers too. Butch will be the "running loco" a nice tribute to my great grandad I think. :)
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dougs » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:50 pm

Steam Test
ok bit of a milestone as the weather was fantsatic yesterday and i am going to be very very busy for the next couple of weeks i thought i would get the steam test done and find out what will need fixing :)
so raising a fire, i used a fan with the smoke box door open to draw the fire it works quite well
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once i get a bit of a boil on the steam blows up the blast pipe to draw the fire
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then the fire really gets going and the pressure comes up
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i then heat up the cold cylinders so the steam wont condence by putting steam through the cylinders with the drain cocks open looks ace too
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then get on to running

:D :D :D
however i have a few things to fix the axel driven water pump looks like it needs an ovehaul as does the hand pump the steam injector just refuses to work so i will probably have to strip it and check it over (after leaning how they should work)
all in all not too bad it's going to be a while till i can get that lot apart again and fixed but some serious progress has been made and it now runs on steam too \:D/
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Re: Restoration of 5" gauge 0,6,0 tank loco

Postby Dan4th » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:10 pm

HA!

Woke Me Right Up :D !

Made my day, too :ymapplause:

Thanks, Dougs, you done good B-)

Oh, and does the loco have a steam whistle????

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