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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Aceyone » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:36 pm

Xplumberlives wrote:
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Bit of a JUNGLE out there! :-o

Well that Cotoneaster bush on the right is now flattened across the lawn cos of the weight of snow last week X(
So it's more like a disaster area now :-o
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby 34053 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:30 pm

That's it for 2010! 'Tornado' ran her final Main Line Excursion, this year, on 13th December. When she reappears in 2011, she will have lost her LNER 'Apple Green' Livery and will be resplendent in 'Brunswick Green' for the first 2011 Main Line Excursion on Saturday 26th February 2011. This will be 'The White Rose' (London to Leeds and return) organised by 'Steam Dreams'. If you want to be on it, visit:

http://www.steamdreams.com

Or telephone: 01483 209888

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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby RLN » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:23 pm

Thanks PW. Shall kep an eye out at the bottom of the garden for her.
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Xplumberlives » Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:25 am

RLN wrote:Thanks PW. Shall kep an eye out at the bottom of the garden for her.





Have a spare "e" on me! :p
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby RLN » Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:42 pm

Awfully generous, old chap. :p
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Xplumberlives » Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:20 am

RLN wrote:Awfully generous, old chap. :p



'tis the season for giving! ;)
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Mayfly » Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:47 am

:-? need to do a recce to see if I can find a spot that's not dominated by overhead cables then..

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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Xplumberlives » Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:58 am

Mayfly wrote::-? need to do a recce to see if I can find a spot that's not dominated by overhead cables then..

Thanks PW




Good luck, catenary seems to be on all of the line! ~x(
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby 34053 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:52 pm

34053 wrote:That's it for 2010! 'Tornado' ran her final Main Line Excursion, this year, on 13th December. When she reappears in 2011, she will have lost her LNER 'Apple Green' Livery and will be resplendent in 'Brunswick Green' for the first 2011 Main Line Excursion on Saturday 26th February 2011. This will be 'The White Rose' (London to Leeds and return) organised by 'Steam Dreams'.........

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Unfortunately, I have just heard that 'The White Rose' Excursion has been postponed to a later date (tba). This is due to the scheduled Winter Maintenance period for this Locomotive being 'extended by two months', to the end of April 2011! This will also affect the visit of 'Tornado' to 'The Severn Valley Railway' over the Easter Weekend. It therefore looks as though the first Main Line duty by 'Tornado' will not be until Wednesday 4th May 2011 (London Euston to Liverpool Lime Street, and return).

I will keep you posted.

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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Xplumberlives » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:15 pm

Thanks P.W.

Looking forward to her new colours!
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby 34053 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:37 pm

Here is the link to the 'Maintenance Update' page of the A1 Trust's website, giving the latest news on the Boiler problems affecting 'Tornado':

http://www.a1steam.com/index.php?option ... Itemid=123

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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Xplumberlives » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:05 pm

Thanks for the update P.W.
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby 34053 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:49 pm

The A1 trust has issued another Statement, dated 12th January:

http://www.a1steam.com/index.php?option ... Itemid=123

Basically, the Boiler has got to be sent back to the manufacturer, in Germany, for repairs as these are 'more extensive.........than originally anticipated......'.

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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:10 pm

34053 wrote:The A1 trust has issued another Statement, dated 12th January:

http://www.a1steam.com/index.php?option ... Itemid=123

Basically, the Boiler has got to be sent back to the manufacturer, in Germany, for repairs as these are 'more extensive.........than originally anticipated......'.

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Let's HOPE that all the work involved is covered by the German Boiler Manufacturers INSURANCE! ;)

It would be nice to see ALL the LOST REVENUE, DISASSEMBLING, TRANSPORTING and REFITTING at the Germans expense!
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Sooty655 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:50 pm

The press release wrote:The Trust decided to return the boiler to its manufacturers due to their intimate knowledge of the construction of this type of firebox.

I wonder if "their intimate knowledge" is a polite way of saying "they f**ked it". :-?
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:24 pm

Sooty655 wrote:
The press release wrote:The Trust decided to return the boiler to its manufacturers due to their intimate knowledge of the construction of this type of firebox.

I wonder if "their intimate knowledge" is a polite way of saying "they f**ked it". :-?





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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Minty4371 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:50 pm

I read on another forum that the reason may be that the inner and outer firebox are TOO CLOSE TOGETHER. Whether that is the reason is not known at the moment. The email on the forum is quoted below:
Yes, it is very bad news about Tornado’s boiler. About two weeks ago, we first heard that the boiler might go back to Meiningen. There have been rumours around the UK heritage scene for a while but now, of course, it’s official and very, very ugly. A few days ago, I learned that the problem may be as drastic as incorrect dimensions of the firebox: that the inner firebox and outer firebox are not far enough apart. This means that the water space is too small, therefore the water and both inner and outer fireboxes get too hot and then the stay-bolts fail. The maintenance time and costs for this new brand-new boiler are absolutely ridiculous. Nobody can believe how badly DLW has got it and the news is all over the world now. I fear for the future of DLW. Maybe DB gets bored with the whole place and shuts is down like it tried before. Very, very sad. Perhaps it has never moved out of the DDR-era but I also think that the former East Germany had a better reputation for industrial quality than this, particularly old technology production. .....schrieb ein Australier der bei der australischen 3801 mitarbeitet. Die haben ja auch einen Boiler aus Meiningen. Ich glaube die beten jetzt ,dass dieser Kessel besser gearbeitet ist,als der von der Tornado
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Xplumberlives » Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:53 pm

I hate to guess at what impilcations this might have on the hoped for SECOND Engine from the A1 STEAM TRUST!
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby RLN » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:40 am

When I was commissioning at Enfield power station the turnkey contractor was ABB. Although their GT and Steam turbine was excellent, they farmed out prefabrication to Eastern European countries which was usually the wrong size or poor quality, and had to have a team of welders on site just to put things right. You pays your money and takes your choice I suppose.
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby 34053 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:06 am

Latest News:

The 'A1 Trust' has now confirmed a revised date for the return of 'Tornado' to the Main Line. It had been hoped that she would be ready for the 'Cathedrals Express' Excursion on 28th April. However, this will not now happen and 6201 'Princess Elizabeth' will haul this train. The new date for 'Tornado' for her first 'public train' is 26th May, which the 'A1 Trust' is confident 'Will' happen.

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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Stigish » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:27 pm

PW, my Dads been badgering me for ages now to find out when the next Loco to go via London- Weymouth/Swanage via Brockenhurst is due. Any ideas?

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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby 34053 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:38 pm

Stigish wrote:PW, my Dads been badgering me for ages now to find out when the next Loco to go via London- Weymouth/Swanage via Brockenhurst is due. Any ideas?

Thanks.


Up and coming Excursions to Swanage ('The Swanage Belle') are on 14th May and 16th June. There are also some 'Dorset Coast Express' Excursions, to Weymouth on 7th July and 12th July and other dates.

For details click on the link below, which is an excellent website for all Main Line Steam:

http://www.uksteam.info/tours/trs11.htm

Just scroll down to the various Excursions. Nearer the date they will give the actual Route, etc when you click on [Times] for the particular Excursion.

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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby 34053 » Tue May 17, 2011 7:59 pm

At last, some good news! 'Tornado' will be back on the Main Line tomorrow (Wednesday 18th May) with two test runs from York to Scarborough and back. Approximate timings are:

Dep York: 1108; Arr S'boro':1207
Dep S'boro' 1307; arr York: 1410

Dep York:1600; Arr S'boro':1710
Dep S'boro':1810; Arr York:1912

'Tornado' will then visit The North Yorkshire Moors Railway from 25th May until 5th June, before embarking upon her first Main Line Excursion (since being repaired) on Saturday 18th June, from Poole to Canterbury ('The Canterbury Tornado').

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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby Xplumberlives » Tue May 17, 2011 8:42 pm

Thanks for the good news P.W!
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Re: 60163 'Tornado' Excursions

Postby 350wedge » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:34 pm

Tornado is at Didcot currently for a week or so. Sat 11th June is the only day she will be in steam though.

I'm off there tomorrow as they will also have the Steam Railcar running and Firefly. Should be a good day if the weather holds!!
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