Identify the Car/Bike

[Spitfire]

You mean you cheated?

Damn right ... google is the only way you can find this stuff

And are you telling me that the picture you posted and the one I found are not basically the same car

[RLN]

They are the same, but it still isn't an Audi. There are 4 rings for a reason.

Clue...google image your picture if you want to cheat.

[Spitfire]

My picture which came out top on a search for 1930s Audi had the caption ...

Audi celebrates its 100th birthday by introducing a new Sportback. This is what they looked like in the 1930s.

Very very similar to yours - but it seems it was a herring rouge ....

So - of we go a hunting and we delve into Audis history - and that leads us to the name Auto Union - who used the 4 rings too - that then leads us to the 4 companies that merged to form Audi and why it's called Audi and why there's 4 rings - which was very interesting in that we are led to one August Horch and this fact

"Horch!" in German means "Hark!" or "hear", which is "Audi" in the singular imperative form of "audire" – "to listen" – in Latin.

My picture did however lead me to the name Roadster in Auto Union - and that was then a short hop to the link between the name Horch and the name Roadster ....

So your picture is a car that belongs to a Judge Joseph Cassini and it is a 1938 Horch 853 Special Roadster - i.e. an early 'Audi'
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/tag/horch-853a/

I rest my case (see what I did there ... Judge ... case ... )

That was very interesting - I enjoyed that and learned a great deal - But as I've said before I can't be arsed to find something obscure - I like the research bit

So do us another RLN - cause I'm not

But you do have to add a nice obscure starting clue - not just a picture - then I can start delving

[RLN]

It is a Horch 853A. It isn't any sort of Audi "early" or otherwise as Audi were a marque in their own right at the time. Auto Union were made from Audi, Horch, DKW and Wanderer.

Anyway, you got there in the end. I will post one when I can.

Well, I can post now that I'm home. No cryptic clues...there are design clues all over the car.

[Spitfire]

I..there are design clues all over the car.

There are if you are in to cars and you know WTF the clues are .... me - not a clue ... it could be from Mars

[RLN]

Not Mars, but America. I guess that is more or less the same thing.

[Spitfire]

Well I had worked that out at least - nobody else could design a car that brash

I've had a cruise around the many and various yankee car images on Google and starting from the premise that I know absolutely nothing about american car styling I am drawn to 2 things I think I've seen + some outside help ...

1) There's elements of a Buick grill
2) Those seem to be T Bird 'eyebrows' over the lights
3) My son in law who is an american petrolhead says 'Corvette/Cobra' (but I think that's too easy!)

Are any of those anywhere near cos I'm getting bored now

[RLN]

Bored? David...............tut, tut!

Go down the B**ck route.

[RLN]

Not a production car...second in the series.

[Spitfire]

Harley Earl's 1954 Wildcat II

Go on - do another ... it's the clues I like chasing

[RLN]

I want the year, what it is based on and the designer, please.

Intro. clue; it isn't British.

[Spitfire]

1969 Fiat Michelotti Shellette Beach Car Chassis no. 100GB 1231722 Engine no. 100GB000

Giovanni Michelotti did present a few cars under its own name. The "Shellette" was a beach car with wicker seats and dashboard, in the spirit of Ghia's Fiat 500 and 600 "Jolly"s, but designed in a collaboration with yacht designer Philip Schell. Originally constructed with DAF underpinnings, it was later built with Fiat 850 mechanicals. Unlike the Ghia Jolly, the 47 PS (35 kW) Shellette was a reasonably useful car capable of a 60 mph (97 km/h) cruising speed and had a heater and various other creature comforts. Only about 80 were built, with around ten still extant. Famous buyers include the Dutch Royal Family, who used an early DAF-based Shellette at their summer property in Porto Ercole, and Jacqueline Onassis, who employed a later model Shellette on the Onassis' private island Skorpios.

From the late 1950s he was responsible for all new models produced by Standard Triumph, starting with a facelift of the Standard Vanguard and going on to design models for Triumph such as the Herald, Spitfire, GT6, TR4, 2000, 1300, Stag, and Dolomite.

If you're gonna leave the Bonhams Auction lot number on the windscreen you're gonna have to expect easy pickin's from the researcher

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21153/lot/361/

Lucky guess - type in 'Car auction Lot number 361' and it's the 2nd entry

Try again

[RLN]

Bum!

[Spitfire]

[RLN]

Come on then. What is this?

[Spitfire]

Well, at first glance, I don't think I'd be way off the beam if I said it's a red sportscar with one windscreen wiper ...

How's that for a first guess

[Ray C]

=))

There's a little bit of DAN about you on this subject David....

French 1960s GRP.....?

[RLN]

Well, at first glance, I don't think I'd be way off the beam if I said it's a red sportscar with one windscreen wiper ...

How's that for a first guess

Not bad, but I need a little more detail.

Not French, and as far as I know not GRP.

[Spitfire]

So ....what have we so far ...

it's a red sportscar with one windscreen wiper

it's not French

it's not GRP

We're really motoring on this one so far .... what's it's Bonhams lot number??

[Ray C]

1960s.....?

[RLN]

What's it's Bonhams lot number?? - not telling.

Commissioned in 1957, and this is a 1959 example.

[Ray C]

So it's a one off, Italian designer....?

[Spitfire]

I am strangely drawn to Pininfarina ??

[RLN]

One off, but not Italian designer.

[Ray C]

American......?